Ha ha. But there's no concerted industry and regulatory scheme to block fax per se.
> On Nov 21, 2025, at 5:12 PM, Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Also, fax will be dead by 2005 at the latest. > > > On Nov 21, 2025 at 3:10:30 PM, Alex Balashov <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Unfounded speculation, but I think this is a short-term hack and will >> ultimately go the way of the dodo. >> >> Yes, services like this will go the way of the dodo. You can't impersonate >> the original caller per se. There will be some other way to pass the >> identity of the caller, or other enriched call data that would be relevant >> to a database lookup. It won't be by presenting CID of a number you don't >> own. >> >> -- Alex >> >>> On Nov 21, 2025, at 5:02 PM, Carlos Alvarez via VoiceOps >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I’ve just deployed something similar to this via Telin. I’m sure others >>> can do it too. They have an automated system that verifies your >>> ownership/permission to use a phone number, and from then on, you can use >>> it and get either B or A attestation. The most common interpretation of >>> the current regs is that this is the only way you can send off-net CLID in >>> the future. If you want to have a live conversation about this I’m open to >>> a call. It’s something I’ve been doing since the 90s and constantly >>> fighting the changing landscape on CLID. >>> >>> If you’d like to talk to someone at Telin I can make an intro. Great >>> people, solid service. >>> >>> >>> On Nov 19, 2025 at 9:07:54 AM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via VoiceOps >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I'm not entirely up on the whole FCC Caller ID Spoofing crackdown that's >>> > going on, but I just ran into a 3rd party service for medical offices >>> > that expects us to spoof Caller ID. >>> > >>> > The service works like this: >>> > * I grab my cell phone (123-456-7890) and call my doctor/dentist/medical >>> > office >>> > * It's after hours and they are busy with other calls >>> > * Their phone system turns around and forwards my call to a 3rd-party >>> > number (say 111-222-3333) emitting my Caller ID info ("Aaron" >>> > <1234567890>) >>> > * They see a call come in on 111-222-3333 and know it's for "Dr. Bob's >>> > Office", so their system accesses his patient database and looks for my >>> > patient record with the phone number 123-456-7890 and someone answers the >>> > call saying "Thanks for calling Dr. Bob's office". >>> > >>> > My understanding is the ability to spoof Caller ID info across the PSTN >>> > is going away. >>> > >>> > I tested, and I certainly can't do it with a Twilio SIP trunk. >>> > >>> > The main reason I'm curious is I have a customer that has their own phone >>> > system that I help them manage (FreePBX linked to Twilio). They just >>> > purchased an office that uses a 3rd-party phone provider (Weave) along >>> > with this 3rd-party answering service, and they are somewhat upset that I >>> > can't make it work with their existing phone system. The third-party >>> > answering service doesn't have any way of interconnecting other than >>> > spoofing Caller ID over the PSTN to a random number they assigned to the >>> > medical office. >>> > >>> > Are services like this going the way of the dodo? Are they having to set >>> > up private SIP trunks between clients to get this functionality? Do some >>> > VoIP providers allow you to spoof Caller ID for this purpose under some >>> > sort of agreement? >>> > >>> > Thanks, >>> > >>> > -A >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > VoiceOps mailing list -- [email protected] >>> > https://lists.voiceops.org/postorius/lists/voiceops.voiceops.org/ >>> > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> VoiceOps mailing list -- [email protected] >>> https://lists.voiceops.org/postorius/lists/voiceops.voiceops.org/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> >> -- >> Alex Balashov >> Principal Consultant >> Evariste Systems LLC >> Web: https://evaristesys.com, https://www.csrpswitch.com >> Tel: +1-706-510-6800 >> > _______________________________________________ > VoiceOps mailing list -- [email protected] > https://lists.voiceops.org/postorius/lists/voiceops.voiceops.org/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] -- Alex Balashov Principal Consultant Evariste Systems LLC Web: https://evaristesys.com, https://www.csrpswitch.com Tel: +1-706-510-6800 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list -- [email protected] https://lists.voiceops.org/postorius/lists/voiceops.voiceops.org/ To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
