No, it's true, consider me appropriately humbled. I underappreciated the nuance 
of this issue. I thought we were talking about something closer to the 
physicality of networks, not packet inspection/filtering/etc.

-- Alex

> On 9 Mar 2024, at 08:11, James Cloos <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> "AB" == Alex Balashov writes:
> 
>>> I don't trust last mile networks to reliably deliver SIP calls. I usually 
>>> end up putting them into VPNs, TLS, etc.
> 
> AB> VPNs and TLS make last-mile networks more reliable? :-) 
> 
> on the vpn side, wireguard (which runs over udp) certainly does.
> 
> I imagine ipsec sometimes can, too.  but wg is easier.
> 
> -JimC
> -- 
> James Cloos <[email protected]>
>            OpenPGP: https://jhcloos.com/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc

-- 
Alex Balashov
Principal Consultant
Evariste Systems LLC
Web: https://evaristesys.com
Tel: +1-706-510-6800

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