Apparently, Frontier just use TNS and Syniverse and don't have their own infrastructure.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Hammett <[email protected]> To: Matthew Crocker <[email protected]> Cc: Mary Lou Carey <[email protected]>, voiceops <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:22:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape Has anyone in here done this with Frontier? They're our ILEC and tandem operator. Is that aspect of Frontier reliable? Is that aspect of Frontier any less money than what I'd be paying now? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Crocker" <[email protected]> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> Cc: "Mary Lou Carey" <[email protected]>, "voiceops" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 1:01:44 PM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape Can you order SS7 links directly to the tandem (f-links?). Should just be a internal cross connect in the building. Then you build ISUP routes for the tandem point code over the direct links with backups over your current A- links On Jan 25, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: <blockquote> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Crocker. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Oh, sure. Pros and cons to everything. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou Carey" <[email protected]> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> Cc: "voiceops" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:59:14 AM Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape There are pros and cons to everything. It sounds like in your case you may just want to keep your ISUP trunks and SS7 links, but maybe look at another provider for SS7. Syniverse is also an option but I'm not sure if their service has gone downhill like TNS' apparently has. MARY LOU CAREY BackUP Telecom Consulting Office: 615-791-9969 Cell: 615-796-1111 On 2022-01-25 10:38 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Right, but as I said earlier, I'm already in the same building as the > tandem, so I'm just adding points of failure for moving an existing > operation somewhere else. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest Internet Exchange > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ------------------------- > > From: "Mary Lou Carey" <[email protected]> > To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Paul Timmins" <[email protected]>, "voiceops" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 10:42:22 PM > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape > > When you use a PSTN connection provider you route your traffic to them > > via SIP and they handle all the SS7 so you can eliminate your direct > LIS > trunks with the LEC and your SS7 Links. > > MARY LOU CAREY > BackUP Telecom Consulting > Office: 615-791-9969 > Cell: 615-796-1111 > > On 2022-01-23 05:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> Well right, but wouldn't I still need all of the same stuff (perhaps > a >> few less trunks to specific switches, only now I have fewer minutes > to >> spread the costs over? >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> ------------------------- >> >> From: "Paul Timmins" <[email protected]> >> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "voiceops" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 12:01:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape >> >> Even without IPES you can switch your feature group D to voip > through >> these aggregators and get rid of basically everything that isn't the >> local LEC's legacy network. >> >>> On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:03 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Sure, but then I just transfer the problem to someone else, until >>> the traditional PSTN goes away or modernizes. I am working on IPES >>> for expansion markets, though. >>> >>> Also, for my home LATA, I'm needing to be in the same building as >>> the primary tandem, so it's kind of a selling point for large >>> customers in that area that I would have fewer opportunities for >>> failures. I don't have to go to Chicago and back to get to the >>> operator in the next row of racks over. Though, I suppose my SS7 >>> diversity and availability is the weakness, not the actual call >>> path. >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com [1] >>> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com [2] >>> >>> ------------------------- >>> >>> From: "Paul Timmins" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "voiceops" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 1:46:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape >>> >>> Reduce your reliance on it more and more. Switch to IP tandems >>> (Inteliquent/Peerless/etc) and ip interconnect. The people who make >>> and support SS7 equipment are in a dying market, the brain drain on >>> it is immense as people retire, and the longer you rely on it, the >>> worse it's gonna get. >>> >>> TNS is a big dog in the space. But that's not saying much anymore. >>> >>>> On Jan 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We currently get our SS7 via TNS. I (maybe incorrectly) understand >>>> them to be a big dog in that space. >>>> >>>> I've had two major problems with them in six months. >>>> >>>> What are my alternatives? Are they less pleasant? >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com [1] >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com [2] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> VoiceOps mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops >> >> >> >> Links: >> ------ >> [1] http://www.ics-il.com/ >> [2] http://www.midwest-ix.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> VoiceOps mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops </blockquote> _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
