The question was (essentially) about mitigating the impact of an SS7 outage 
(disguised as a question about who provides SS7 these days (nobody, if they can 
avoid it)). If the SS7 links go down and you only have a small amount of your 
traffic affected, I call that a huge win.

> On Jan 23, 2022, at 6:33 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well right, but wouldn't I still need all of the same stuff (perhaps a few 
> less trunks to specific switches, only now I have fewer minutes to spread the 
> costs over?
> 
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> From: "Paul Timmins" <[email protected]>
> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "voiceops" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 12:01:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape
> 
> Even without IPES you can switch your feature group D to voip through these 
> aggregators and get rid of basically everything that isn't the local LEC's 
> legacy network.
> 
> 
> On Jan 22, 2022, at 7:03 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> Sure, but then I just transfer the problem to someone else, until the 
> traditional PSTN goes away or modernizes. I am working on IPES for expansion 
> markets, though.
> 
> Also, for my home LATA, I'm needing to be in the same building as the primary 
> tandem, so it's kind of a selling point for large customers in that area that 
> I would have fewer opportunities for failures. I don't have to go to Chicago 
> and back to get to the operator in the next row of racks over. Though, I 
> suppose my SS7 diversity and availability is the weakness, not the actual 
> call path.
> 
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> From: "Paul Timmins" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Cc: "voiceops" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 1:46:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] SS7 Landscape
> 
> Reduce your reliance on it more and more. Switch to IP tandems 
> (Inteliquent/Peerless/etc) and ip interconnect. The people who make and 
> support SS7 equipment are in a dying market, the brain drain on it is immense 
> as people retire, and the longer you rely on it, the worse it's gonna get.
> 
> TNS is a big dog in the space. But that's not saying much anymore.
> 
> 
> On Jan 22, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> We currently get our SS7 via TNS. I (maybe incorrectly) understand them to be 
> a big dog in that space.
> 
> I've had two major problems with them in six months.
> 
> What are my alternatives? Are they less pleasant?
> 
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