I expect that people will attest spam. But we're allowed to block carriers by spid if we want if we start getting garbage. The effective telecom death penalty that'd create (along with the liability) will be an interesting enforcement mechanism.
________________________________ From: VoiceOps <[email protected]> on behalf of Nick Olsen <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 1:27 PM To: Karl Douthit Cc: Voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] Fake Voicemail Anti-Robocall Tactics My faith in STIR/SHAKEN has all but collapsed. I think we're just going to end up in a situation where even the SPAM is attested. At least having a breadcrumb to follow might help. Given the current state of SS. I won't hold my breath. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:44 PM Karl Douthit <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Stir will only help if carriers actually pass or allow tokens. Still waiting on several tier 1 carriers to take them. On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 9:35 AM Glen Gerhard <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hopefully Stir/Shaken will make this a moot point. Calvin, are you saying that a 608 is the recommended response for a call that is being rejected due to S/S attestation or CVT reasons? ~Glen On 2/16/2021 8:19 AM, Calvin Ellison wrote: Today we received a notice from one of our underlying carriers that included the following statement: * If a customer spoofs an ANI that they do not own, the clec's can forward to call to a voiceless Voicemail which appears to be FAS. Is there any legal device that actually supports this practice? I'm looking for a specific statute, FCC rule, precedent in a judicial ruling, or the like. The FCC has ruled that the SIP 608 response code is to be used for signaling when a call is rejected. I doubt the FCC or FTC has ruled that terminating carriers are permitted to cause loss of trust and revenue between upstream intermediate and originating carriers. Regards, Calvin Ellison Systems Architect [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> +1 (213) 285-0555 ----------------------------------------------- voxox.com<http://www.voxox.com/> 5825 Oberlin Drive, Suite 5 San Diego, CA 92121 [Voxox] _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops -- Glen Gerhard [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 858.324.4536 Cognexus, LLC 7891 Avenida Kirjah San Diego, CA 92037 _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops -- Karl Douthit 10572 Calle Lee #123 Los Alamitos Ca. 90720 (562) 257-3590<tel:%28562%29%20257-3590> (Desk) (562) 824-0757<tel:%28562%29%20827-0757> (Mobile) www.piratel.com<http://www.piratel.com/> _______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
_______________________________________________ VoiceOps mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/voiceops
