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vnc-list-digest Friday, May 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1147
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VNC-LIST-DIGEST is a daily collection of the messages sent to the
VNC mailing list. For more information about VNC see the home page
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc .
In this issue:
Re: Null-Modem PPP
RE: Remove Wallpaper Option always "on" under win2K ??
Re: Null-Modem PPP
Re: Null-Modem PPP
RE: FIX: How to install VNC on a remote machine
Re: BAD LINK TO YOUR AIX VNC WEBSITE
Re: BAD LINK TO YOUR AIX VNC WEBSITE
Re: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
Re: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
AW: Remove Wallpaper Option always "on" under win2K ??
Video Memory
Re: Video Memory
VNC DOS server
Re: Null-Modem PPP
RE: VNC DOS server
Re: Null-Modem PPP
Re: vnc and vpn
Re: vnc and vpn
RE: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
modem
Ipaq VNC
Specifying particular xstartup file
Affirmation of "VNC Connection Freezes / Drops" with Windows
Re: Null-Modem PPP
Re: Affirmation of "VNC Connection Freezes / Drops" with Windows
RE: modem
Re: Ipaq VNC
RE: Ipaq VNC
Re: Null-Modem PPP
VNC Icon not appearing
Re: VNC Icon not appearing
RE: VNC DOS server
RE:Windows 2000 fun
Solaris vncviewer ignores -depth option
Building the Unix Source Code Distribution
Re: Ghosting??
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:29:12 +0200
From: "Ran Sasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
> Eventually I'll buy a secondary Ethernet card for my desktop win2k
machine
> and run a null ethernet cable between the two, but I'm trying to save my
> money right now :P
I use USB ethernet connector to connect short term machines with no NIC.
It's 9Mbp (port speed), and support 10/100LAN. It's about 20$.
For file transfer only, I use crossover USB cable 10$.
Ran.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:37:39 +0200
From: "Bo Berglund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Remove Wallpaper Option always "on" under win2K ??
What is ServiceHelper?
Is it a W2000 function?
/Bo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sebastian
Laatsch
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 6:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Remove Wallpaper Option always "on" under win2K ??
I'm using WinVNC 3.3.3r9 as a service under Windows2000.
Normally I don't use the ServiceHelper, because there is
only one user on this system (and I have enough symbols in the tray ;-)).
With WinVNC 3.3.3r7 everything run as I supposed (without starting the
ServiceHelper):
I could lock the system and logoff.
After that I was able to reconnect and disable the lock.
=> The wallpaper was always there.
Since I use the new release 3.3.3r9 the following problem appears
(when the ServiceHelper is not running):
I'm able to logon/logoff/ or lock/disable the lock as before BUT:
always when I logon the Wallpaper disappears and only the defined
Background-Colour is shown on the desktop (the wallpaper is still
chosen in the properties but not shown)
I tried to set the "RemoveWallpaper" Option to "0" in the Registry but it
didn't work.
The only way to correct this bug was to start the ServiceHelper.
With the ServiceHelper running, everything works fine.
Regards
Sebastian Laatsch
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 03:07:44 -0300
From: "Norberto Alfredo Bensa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
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From: "Ran Sasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 03:29
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
> > Eventually I'll buy a secondary Ethernet card for my desktop win2k
> machine
> > and run a null ethernet cable between the two, but I'm trying to save my
> > money right now :P
>
> I use USB ethernet connector to connect short term machines with no NIC.
> It's 9Mbp (port speed), and support 10/100LAN. It's about 20$.
RTL8139 based NICs are just $10 here in Argentina ;-)
> For file transfer only, I use crossover USB cable 10$.
>
UTP cable it's about $0.5 per meter + $0.5 each RJ45
Best regards,
Norberto
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 01:18:48 -0500
From: "James Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
I'll have to consider the usb-ether adapter.. however, I'll need a usb hub
or to unplug my scanner when I go to use it (not that big of a deal,
really..)
no usb on the laptop side, altho I do already have a modem/lan card.
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From: "Ran Sasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
> > Eventually I'll buy a secondary Ethernet card for my desktop win2k
> machine
> > and run a null ethernet cable between the two, but I'm trying to save my
> > money right now :P
>
> I use USB ethernet connector to connect short term machines with no NIC.
> It's 9Mbp (port speed), and support 10/100LAN. It's about 20$.
> For file transfer only, I use crossover USB cable 10$.
>
> Ran.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:18:09 +0100
From: "Richard Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: FIX: How to install VNC on a remote machine
> I think the question is: Given you have the ability to manipulate the
> registry, exactly what change(s) need to be made to make the VNCServer
> icon disappear from the SysTray?
> With TridiaVNC, they have an option
> \HKLM\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default\DisableTrayIcon which I set to 1
> with no success.
Have you got this to work on a PC with a standard install of Tridia?
I would have thought that you'd need to restart the PC / restart
Tridia before this setting kicks in. When each of those programs
start, they read the reg for their settings.
IMO, closing down the systray icon is not enough to bring that reg
change in. You'll probably need to restart the service and then fire
the systray app up again.
On another note, why bother hiding it? The users at my work seem
happy with the icon - plus you can prevent them from fiddling with it
by using AllowProperties and AllowShutdown keys.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:56:22 +0100 (BST)
From: Aideen McConville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BAD LINK TO YOUR AIX VNC WEBSITE
> Actually, the broken link was pointed out on the VNC mailing list a
couple of
> months ago I believe...I even carried on a little discussion there about
> it at the time... :)
Oops! so it was.
Here's a link that's been mentioned a few times too:
(providing smit installable binaries for AIX 4.3.2 (and higher))
http://www.bull.de/pub/
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:59:43 -0400
From: "Clayton Duffek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BAD LINK TO YOUR AIX VNC WEBSITE
Yes Chuck I would be interested if you could zip and email the VNC AIX
patchs & HTML, to me. Maybe I can find some one here at IBM to put it
somewhere. Thanks in advance. Clayton.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:26:49 +0100
From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
OK. Is it possible for you to configure the VNCviewer to output its debug
information to a console window? (As documented on the VNC docs page)?
This will give some clue as to what the last event the viewer saw was.
Cheers,
James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: "Mark Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
> James,
>
> The VNCviewer that freezes (in our case) is a Windows 2000 box.
> VNCserver is running on an NT box. The symptom is that the cursor
> (mouse) freezes on the vncviewer window, only allowing us to move the
dot.
> We can move up and close the vncviewer window and restart the viewer and
> continue. The desktop on the server is not affected, and when we
restart
> the viewer things are ok until the viewer freezes again.
>
> I have not seen the viewer hang on my Linux boxes.
>
>
>
> Mark H. Harris <><
>
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:24:03 +0100
From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
OK. What affect do you get if you connect a viewer, work with it until it
freezes, then connect *another* viewer to the same server, but in "shared"
mode? Also, what happens if you connect another viewer to the server while
the first viewer is hung, but in "unshared" mode?
Cheers,
James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: "David Lankford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
> VNCviewer is running on a WinNT4 machine and the WinVNC (App Mode) is
> running on a Win2k Pro system.
>
> Version 3.3.3r9
>
> I have not noticed it freezing when I minimize/restore the window. I can
> connect and just move the mouse around for a short period of time before
the
> cursor freezes. The longest time before a freeze has been 3 minutes.
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James ''Wez'' Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 1:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
>
>
> > In my initial request, I stated the paragraph below. In this instance,
> the
> > connection does not automatically cause the viewer to close, it just
> freezes
> > the connection requiring that the connection be manually closed.
> >
> > " 2. Frequently, the cusor will freeze and the connection will need
to
> > be
> > closed and restarted. Note: The white cursor freezes, the dot cursor
> > remains active and will allow me to close the window to restart the
> > session."
>
>
> Right. I'm getting confused because a number of people all seem to be
> replying to the same emails and I'm losing context.
>
> Would I be right in assuming the viewer runs on a Windows machine?
>
> Do you ever minimise the viewer? Does it spontaneously hang, or only when
> restored after having been minimised?
>
> Cheers,
>
> James "Wez" Weatherall
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:40:51 +0100
From: "Sebastian Laatsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AW: Remove Wallpaper Option always "on" under win2K ??
No, it's a function of the WinVNC Service: WinVNC.exe -ServiceHelper
It means that there is a symbol in the tray to control the setting
of the service running in the background and to make it possible that
the service knows who connects to the server. As far as I know.
Best Regards
Sebastian Laatsch
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2001 06:38
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Betreff: RE: Remove Wallpaper Option always "on" under win2K ??
What is ServiceHelper?
Is it a W2000 function?
/Bo
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sebastian
Laatsch
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 6:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Remove Wallpaper Option always "on" under win2K ??
I'm using WinVNC 3.3.3r9 as a service under Windows2000.
Normally I don't use the ServiceHelper, because there is
only one user on this system (and I have enough symbols in the tray ;-)).
With WinVNC 3.3.3r7 everything run as I supposed (without starting the
ServiceHelper):
I could lock the system and logoff.
After that I was able to reconnect and disable the lock.
=> The wallpaper was always there.
Since I use the new release 3.3.3r9 the following problem appears
(when the ServiceHelper is not running):
I'm able to logon/logoff/ or lock/disable the lock as before BUT:
always when I logon the Wallpaper disappears and only the defined
Background-Colour is shown on the desktop (the wallpaper is still
chosen in the properties but not shown)
I tried to set the "RemoveWallpaper" Option to "0" in the Registry but it
didn't work.
The only way to correct this bug was to start the ServiceHelper.
With the ServiceHelper running, everything works fine.
Regards
Sebastian Laatsch
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:48:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Irfan Bashir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Video Memory
Hello All :
This question is specially for the developers of vnc..
I want to hook the video memory just before the GUI data is going to be
displayed on the screen . I want to do it continously. I have studied
directDraw a little but it helps in creating surfaces and then dislpaying
them. But I want to actually capture what is the Windows GUI data that is
mapped on the screen continously.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:18:38 +0100
From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Video Memory
This depends on the platform. On NT, you need to write a driver to catch
low-level video calls before they reach the real video driver. Under Win9x,
you need to use the DDI interfaces.
Cheers,
James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: "Irfan Bashir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: Video Memory
> Hello All :
> This question is specially for the developers of vnc..
> I want to hook the video memory just before the GUI data is going to be
> displayed on the screen . I want to do it continously. I have studied
> directDraw a little but it helps in creating surfaces and then dislpaying
> them. But I want to actually capture what is the Windows GUI data that is
> mapped on the screen continously.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:54:43 +0100
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Subject: VNC DOS server
Anyone know if any work has been done on a DOS server? (I know there is a
DOS viewer at: http://pobox.com/~mjy/dosvnc.html). or any hack \enviroment
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:59:32 -0400
From: Michael Milette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
Establishing a PPP connection between a Windows 9x machine and NT or 2000
You can find detailed instructions on how to do the Windows 95, 98, and ME
part of this on the following web page:
http://support.triscend.com/triscendknowbase/root/public/90.htm
Follow the links at the bottom of the page for information on using the
driver.
A link to the driver itself can be found on the following page:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/103.html
You can also try out "The Direct Connection" web site. Many have posted
positive results in the newsgroups when using their drivers:
http://www.kevin-wells.com/net/
Null modem serial cable information can be found at:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q108/2/96.asp
As for Windows 2000, I believe there is a null modem type of modem already
included. My understanding is that you need only install that modem and
tell RAS to use it.
But then again, this is all very theoretical as I have never personally
done any of this myself. Try it out and let us all know how it works out.
Good luck!
Michael Milette
TNG Consulting Inc.
At 09:20 PM 2001-05-23 -0500, you wrote:
>Hopefully this isn't too OT and someone can help me,
>I have a windows 2000 pro desktop, and a windows 95 laptop, I also have a
>null modem cable to connect the two.
>What I'd like to do is simply hook up the cable and having them connect via
>PPP at 115k and then go on from there. I have been able to transfer files
>via hyperterm at 115k, and I've been able to get a Direct-cable-connect
>thing going, but it runs at only 19.2k, way to slow for my needs...
>
>Of course, the saving grace that brings this back on topic.. one of my
needs
>is that I'd like to connect to the laptop using vnc for remote control.
>This would be easy if I was running Linux, but I am not.
>Eventually I'll buy a secondary ethernet card for my desktop win2k machine
>and run a null ethernet cable between the two, but I'm trying to save my
>money right now :P
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:32:04 +0100
From: Keith Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: VNC DOS server
Yeah, this would be extreeeemely useful in setting up basic OS environments
remotely...
If anyone knows anything, I'm interested too...
Keith.
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VNC DOS server
>
>
> Anyone know if any work has been done on a DOS server? (I
> know there is a
> DOS viewer at: http://pobox.com/~mjy/dosvnc.html). or any
> hack \enviroment
> to get one of the other server platforms to run under DOS?
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:57:02 -0500
From: "Mac Reiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
>For file transfer only, I use crossover USB cable 10$.
Just to avoid anybody trying to save themselves $10 by actually making a
"crossover USB cable", it won't work... USB device chips are currently so
cheap and so small that they can afford to put two of them in a cable
(small enough to fit in the USB connector grip part). Each computer gets a
USB device, and the two devices talk to each other. Doesn't really matter,
as long as you can buy the $10 cable and do your work. But if you actually
open a USB cable and try to just crossover the cables, you'll blow out one
or more of your computer USB controllers, and possibly damage the
motherboard.
Sorry, but my company develops USB devices (and many other things), and it
mildly irritates me that other companies call these things crossover cables.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:53:41 -0400
From: David Rothman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vnc and vpn
hi...thanks for the reply (i've been away so i'm just
catching up)...
i'd be interested in the workaround u mentioned. can u
provide any links or add'l info? thanks
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From: "Miroslav Luptak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: vnc and vpn
> Hi, Dave.
>
> I think that the cisco client changes the
> default route on the win98 to point to the corporate
> network. Therefore the VNC connection is dead from
> that moment.
>
> An easy workaround can be used on the win98 machine.
> Before you start the cisco client, add a host specific
> route for the w2k machine to the routing table
> on the win98.
>
> If you need info about how to add the host specific
> route, send me an email. Then you should post
> a summary to then list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Miroslav Luptak
>
> >
> > on my home lan i can use vpn to go from my main machine
> > (win 2000 pro) to a win98 machine.
> >
> > on that win98 i can run cisco vpn 2000 client window to
> > attach to a corporate vpn.
> >
> > i'd like to access the vpn remotely by attaching to the
win
> > 98 machine via vnc and then run the cisco client.
problem
> > is that after i attach via vnc and then run the cisco
> > client, i then enter a password and the connection via
VNC
> > goes dead.
> >
> > i assume the cisco client is killing vnc somehow or
there is
> > a conflict. r there any workarounds i can try? the
cisco
> > stuff will not run on win 2000 so i need to do it this
way
> > cuz my real intention is to use my win 2000 laptop
remotely
> > to attach to the win98 machine to ultimately get to the
> > vpn...thanks in advance, dave
>
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:53:41 -0400
From: David Rothman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vnc and vpn
hi...thanks for the reply (i've been away so i'm just
catching up)...
i'd be interested in the workaround u mentioned. can u
provide any links or add'l info? thanks
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From: "Miroslav Luptak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: vnc and vpn
> Hi, Dave.
>
> I think that the cisco client changes the
> default route on the win98 to point to the corporate
> network. Therefore the VNC connection is dead from
> that moment.
>
> An easy workaround can be used on the win98 machine.
> Before you start the cisco client, add a host specific
> route for the w2k machine to the routing table
> on the win98.
>
> If you need info about how to add the host specific
> route, send me an email. Then you should post
> a summary to then list.
>
> Regards,
>
> Miroslav Luptak
>
> >
> > on my home lan i can use vpn to go from my main machine
> > (win 2000 pro) to a win98 machine.
> >
> > on that win98 i can run cisco vpn 2000 client window to
> > attach to a corporate vpn.
> >
> > i'd like to access the vpn remotely by attaching to the
win
> > 98 machine via vnc and then run the cisco client.
problem
> > is that after i attach via vnc and then run the cisco
> > client, i then enter a password and the connection via
VNC
> > goes dead.
> >
> > i assume the cisco client is killing vnc somehow or
there is
> > a conflict. r there any workarounds i can try? the
cisco
> > stuff will not run on win 2000 so i need to do it this
way
> > cuz my real intention is to use my win 2000 laptop
remotely
> > to attach to the win98 machine to ultimately get to the
> > vpn...thanks in advance, dave
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:45:54 -0500
From: "Jason Hatter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: VNC Connection Freezes / Drops
> Jason,
> Where do you check "poll full window" ?
Double click on the VNC server icon in the system tray. Check the box that
states "poll full screen".
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:44:18 -0400
From: "Prom Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem
I'm trying to connect to my PC at work from home (using a dialup). When I
tried to connect it keeps giving me the following error:
Fail to get server address. Did you type the host name correctly?
I don't have any problem connecting to other PC in the office while I'm in
the
office. what the problem?
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:07:22 -0400
From: Steve Caesare - McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ipaq VNC
For whomever was looking for VNC for the iPaq... here is an updated compile.
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
<http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html>
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- - Director of Technology
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:55:31 -0500
From: Jason Joines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Specifying particular xstartup file
Is there an option you can give the Linux vncserver to tell it use a
specific xstartup file?
Jason Joines
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:54:48 -0700
From: Frank Evan Perdicaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Affirmation of "VNC Connection Freezes / Drops" with Windows
I too am experiencing Windows freeze and have been working on narrowing
down the problem. Later today I will be trying another configuration.
My setup is this
W98 server is the most recent TightVNC
Solaris 2.7 client
Connection is point to point dialup. Connection speed
is about 20K (way slow) on average.
Connection characteristics are 8 bit color, Tight at maximum
compression + jpeg. Noshared.
Symptom for W98 is total lockup of the server requiring a reboot.
The Sun system is uneffected. It works fine.
As a geek / hacker/ computer science guy with 15 years graphics
programming experience, I have a few hunches/observations.
* The problem appears to be related to the number of pixels
on the screen. Small screen means no hang.
* Server must have smaller screen than client.
* Very intermittent. No good temporal correlation. No good
visual correlation. May be a mouse boundary crossing issue.
I suspect an uninitialized variable or pointer that gets
corrupted. Another good candidate is a signed/unsigned
counter wrap problem.
This problem reminds me of two specific problems I have experienced.
A) tar directory checksum variant. Do not assume signed or unsigned as
the default behavior for chars in C. Always specify completely in C!
ie
signed short int foo;
signed char c;
This Unix tar problem was around for more than a decade. Tar volumes
with certain combinations of filenames were not portable, showing the
error "directory checksum error" when there was, in fact, no error.
B) Screen decomposition short wrap. Decomposition software similar to
VNC assumed the maximum number of tiles on the screen to be <= 2^15 but
did not check in all situations. On occasion tiles would end up with a
negative value as the identifier. Bad, hard-to-find things happened.
Hopfully somebody will figure this one out.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:04:36 -0500
From: "James Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
That helped out some, I'm half way there now.
I have my windows 95 computer configured, however I'm having problems making
the actual connection.
I have a connection setup on my win2k computer to accept incoming
connections, altho it's limited to 56k for some reason :/ but that's not my
problem, the computers just refuse to talk to each other now.
My win95 computer gets to 'verifying username and password' and gives me
this error message:
"dial-up networking could not negotiate a compatible set of network
protocols you specified in the server type settings.
Check your netowrk configuration in the control panel then try the
connection again."
However, I have tcp/ip+ppp selected on both sides, as well as dhcp
configured. Everything /should/ work, but it isn't.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Milette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:59 AM
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
> Establishing a PPP connection between a Windows 9x machine and NT or 2000
>
> You can find detailed instructions on how to do the Windows 95, 98, and ME
> part of this on the following web page:
>
> http://support.triscend.com/triscendknowbase/root/public/90.htm
>
> Follow the links at the bottom of the page for information on using the
driver.
>
> A link to the driver itself can be found on the following page:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/471/103.html
>
> You can also try out "The Direct Connection" web site. Many have posted
> positive results in the newsgroups when using their drivers:
>
> http://www.kevin-wells.com/net/
>
> Null modem serial cable information can be found at:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q108/2/96.asp
>
> As for Windows 2000, I believe there is a null modem type of modem already
> included. My understanding is that you need only install that modem and
> tell RAS to use it.
>
> But then again, this is all very theoretical as I have never personally
> done any of this myself. Try it out and let us all know how it works out.
> Good luck!
>
> Michael Milette
> TNG Consulting Inc.
>
> At 09:20 PM 2001-05-23 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hopefully this isn't too OT and someone can help me,
> >I have a windows 2000 pro desktop, and a windows 95 laptop, I also have a
> >null modem cable to connect the two.
> >What I'd like to do is simply hook up the cable and having them connect
via
> >PPP at 115k and then go on from there. I have been able to transfer files
> >via hyperterm at 115k, and I've been able to get a Direct-cable-connect
> >thing going, but it runs at only 19.2k, way to slow for my needs...
> >
> >Of course, the saving grace that brings this back on topic.. one of my
needs
> >is that I'd like to connect to the laptop using vnc for remote control.
> >This would be easy if I was running Linux, but I am not.
> >Eventually I'll buy a secondary ethernet card for my desktop win2k
machine
> >and run a null ethernet cable between the two, but I'm trying to save my
> >money right now :P
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:17:22 +0100
From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Affirmation of "VNC Connection Freezes / Drops" with Windows
> I too am experiencing Windows freeze and have been working on narrowing
> down the problem. Later today I will be trying another configuration.
The problem you describe is completely different from the problem described
by the original poster. The original problem is that updates from the
server stop being received by the viewer.
The problem you describe is that the server is actually crashing the
machine. This is most likely coursed by lack of system resources, caused by
update events being generated faster than the VNC process is processing
them. Under Win9x, this can cause serious problems, basically because Win9x
is mainly 16-bit and doesn't deal with large numbers of resources well.
Cheers,
James "Wez" Weatherall
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:24:11 -0500
From: John Pierson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: modem
Make sure you have TCP/IP bound to your dialup adapter for starters (on your
client AND server computer).
I can't remember what the address is for a server modem once connected. Do
a winipcfg (win9x) or ipconfig (win2k) to get your modem IP address. The
server address is probably the same but with a .1 on the end.
Don't try to connect the the Name of the server computer like you might at
the office. It won't be recognized by your client dial-up computer. Use
the IP address.
Hope this helps.
John
- -----Original Message-----
From: Prom Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:44 AM
To: vnc
Subject: modem
I'm trying to connect to my PC at work from home (using a dialup). When I
tried to connect it keeps giving me the following error:
Fail to get server address. Did you type the host name correctly?
I don't have any problem connecting to other PC in the office while I'm in
the
office. what the problem?
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:29:40 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ipaq VNC
From: Kevin Yager
What is different about this "updated compile" compared to what I might
have downloaded a week ago?
Kevin
Steve Caesare - McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 05/24/2001 11:07:22
AM
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cc: (bcc: Kevin Yager/452606/EKC)
Subject: Ipaq VNC
For whomever was looking for VNC for the iPaq... here is an updated
compile.
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
<http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html>
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:55:48 -0400
From: "Steven M. Caesare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Ipaq VNC
The Conduits port was for WinCE 2.11. This one was ported to WinCE
3.0/PocketPC. At least cosmetically the screens are easier to access.
Reports are that it fixes a couple of bugs as well. Haven't tried it
yet.
- -sc
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>
>
> From: Kevin Yager
>
> What is different about this "updated compile" compared to
> what I might have downloaded a week ago?
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
> Steve Caesare - McLean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on
> 05/24/2001 11:07:22 AM
>
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> cc: (bcc: Kevin Yager/452606/EKC)
> Subject: Ipaq VNC
>
>
>
>
> For whomever was looking for VNC for the iPaq... here is an
> updated compile.
>
http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html
<http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html>
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:09:25 -0400
From: Michael Milette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Null-Modem PPP
Hopefully this information will also apply to Windows 2000:
1) Under Windows NT the serial cable device is installed/configured in the
Modem utility in Control Panel and is listed under Standard Modem Types as
"Dial-Up Networking Serial Cable between 2 PCs."
2) Make sure your all serial connection speeds match. Null modem cables
will not auto-negotiate a connection speed like a modem will. If that
doesn't work, try slowing down your connection speed to 9,600. Again, it
must match everywhere
4) Make sure you are using a null modem cable that is properly wired as per
the linked Microsoft diagram in my previous message.
5) If you don't have a complete proper null cable, try switching to
software flow control. Either way, make sure this setting matches on both
machines. Remember, there is no auto-negotiation that is going to happen.
6) Don't forget to start the RAS Server Service on the Windows NT computer
and make sure the user who is connecting has RAS Dial-in permissions.
If I can think of anything else, I will let you know. Please let us know if
you get it working and details of the solution.
Michael Milette
TNG Consulting Inc.
At 12:04 PM 2001-05-24 -0500, you wrote:
>That helped out some, I'm half way there now.
>I have my windows 95 computer configured, however I'm having problems
making
>the actual connection.
>I have a connection setup on my win2k computer to accept incoming
>connections, altho it's limited to 56k for some reason :/ but that's not my
>problem, the computers just refuse to talk to each other now.
>My win95 computer gets to 'verifying username and password' and gives me
>this error message:
>"dial-up networking could not negotiate a compatible set of network
>protocols you specified in the server type settings.
>Check your netowrk configuration in the control panel then try the
>connection again."
>
>However, I have tcp/ip+ppp selected on both sides, as well as dhcp
>configured. Everything /should/ work, but it isn't.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:33:29 CDT
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VNC Icon not appearing
I have run into a problem on one Dell laptop running Windows 98 Second
Edition. The VNC icon does not appear in the taskbar near the time. I am
installing VNC from a script and this is the only PC I have had any problems
with.
Even though the icon does not appear, I am able to connect, so I know the
service is running.
As part of our company's privacy policy, the icon must appear so individuals
will know when someone is connected to their computer.
Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Jay Hall, Director of Information Technology Services
Missouri NEA
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:56:08 +0100
From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VNC Icon not appearing
You must ensure that the service helper runs when the user logs in to the
machine, and that the machine is configured such that users do log in. VNC
will not display the tray icon unless it can find the name of the logged in
user.
James "Wez" Weatherall
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Subject: VNC Icon not appearing
> I have run into a problem on one Dell laptop running Windows 98 Second
> Edition. The VNC icon does not appear in the taskbar near the time. I am
> installing VNC from a script and this is the only PC I have had any
problems
> with.
>
> Even though the icon does not appear, I am able to connect, so I know the
> service is running.
>
> As part of our company's privacy policy, the icon must appear so
individuals
> will know when someone is connected to their computer.
>
> Thanks in advance for your assistance.
>
>
>
> Jay Hall, Director of Information Technology Services
> Missouri NEA
>
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:08:16 -0400
From: Michael Milette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: VNC DOS server
Sorry, don't know of an implementation of VNC server for DOS.
However, depending on what your requirements are, almost 10 years ago I
used a utility from PC Magazine called "PCRemote". It worked over a modem
and I believe that it also worked over a null modem cable. It comes with
both the host and the client as well as a program called ZCOPY to copy
files. Best of all, it's free. You can find it as well as additional
information at
http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles_zdnet/info.html?fcode
=000OK5&b=pcm
Michael Milette
TNG Consulting Inc.
At 02:32 PM 2001-05-24 +0100, you wrote:
>Yeah, this would be extreeeemely useful in setting up basic OS environments
>remotely...
>
>If anyone knows anything, I'm interested too...
>
>Keith.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:55 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: VNC DOS server
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if any work has been done on a DOS server? (I
> > know there is a
> > DOS viewer at: http://pobox.com/~mjy/dosvnc.html). or any
> > hack \enviroment
> > to get one of the other server platforms to run under DOS?
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:29:43 -0400
From: "Lanier, Brian (CCI-San Diego CCC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE:Windows 2000 fun
Thanks all for the help. The below solved the problem in combination
with re installing the reg value to use the service helper. I had
deleted it so that the icon tray value wouldn't show.
I know the argument both ways on that topic and generally agree with the
side to leave the icon visible. However, there are legitimate times
when it would be nice to not have it show. Example, your users are
pretty good and might try to mess with VNC if they know its there.
Used in conjunction with the QuerySetting value to prompt to accept, it
is a legitimate and honest use of VNC.
Thanks for all the help. VNC doesn't prompt at the ctl-alt-del box(even
though that would be nice, especially when you have to deal with a human
resource dept), does prompt when someone is logged in, automagically
logs off when disconnected(in case user tries to kill session when
logged in as admin), and is generally a great resource for remote
desktop support in a telecommuting environment. Keep up all the great
work.
Brian
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:27:15 +0100
From: "James ''Wez'' Weatherall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 fun
Set the QuerySetting for the SYSTEM user to the value which always
accepts
connections, never queries. (You will need to add a SYSTEM key under
HKLM/Software/ORL/WinVNC3)
Cheers,
James "Wez" Weatherall
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:22:27 -0700
From: Edwin Goei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Solaris vncviewer ignores -depth option
Hi,
I'm trying to run the Solaris vncviewer with a depth greater than 8 (so
I can get better quality images among other things) but it does not
work. I've tried using commands of the form:
% vncviewer -depth <n>
where "<n>" is 16, 24, 32. It seems to always use an 8-bit PseudoColor
visual even though my X server supports 24-bit visuals as well. The
Windows vncviewer works fine.
Is this a bug? Any ideas?
I'm using protocol version 3.3 (viewer 3.3).
- -Edwin
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:51:58 -0400
From: "Ric Conover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Building the Unix Source Code Distribution
I'm building the Unix Src distribution of the VNC.
The latest 3.3.3.2 VNC. I follow the instructions,
everything seems to go fine, but the Xvnc sever
makefiles never get called.
When I 'cd' into the Xvnc server directory and
make World, lot's of library and fonts and etc things
go very well, but yet the server itself never appears!
I'm using FreeBSD 4.3. The pre-built code for
FreeBSD works fine.
Any ideas? Thanks
Ric Conover
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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 00:55:09 -0300
From: "Mike Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ghosting??
VNC allows you to control the mouse and keyboard and view the contents of
the screen. There is no way you can work on a Windows machine with VNC
without the user noticing. Her or she would see the cursor moving and the
contents changing. Even with pcAnywhere there is only so much that one can
do without affecting the user.
>From: Jack Frozt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>CC: Mike Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Ghosting??
>Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:24:09 -0400 (EDT)
>
>I don't want to spy. I mean VNC kinda lets you do that minus the ablity to
>hide the tray icon. I want to know is there a way to install and run stuff
>without the user knowing. I need this at my job bc I want to be able to
>work
>on the users computer, if possible, while they are working. pcAnywhere
>allows you to do something like that. I want to know if there is a way to
>do
>the same thing in VNC or perhaps the TridiaVNC. Fill me in if you know
>anything about something like that.
>
>Thanx
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