I would be inclined to check with lawyers before installing "invisible" VNC.
At the very least I would expect to have to make the same sort of
announcement you get whenever you phone a customer service dept where you
are warned that the phone call may be recorded. May be the notice could be a
log on message (alongside the text that says that the machine can only be
used by authorized people on legitimate company business). Then no one would
ever read it.
Angus.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ran Sasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: VNC Invisible
> I not talking about the "official" VNC compilation ,
> but about compiling vnc-like-versions (= rfb based) .
> lets say I compile a pre-configured vnc with taskbar icon hidden and no
> authhost at port 6000.
> I add it to some kind of app setup (or a simple vb/javascript!) and spread
> it around. from now on all these machines are seen without notice !
> what's the difference from BackOrifice ? - which is rightfully recognized
> as a virus ..
>
> still I think something should be done about this .
> at least a condition in the license like ...
> " these codes should be used only with explicitly notifying the hosts
about
> every monitoring session, or else host explicit written concession to give
> up this right ."
>
> although I look for your opinion Jonathan , it would be nice to have James
> "Wez" also.
>
> Ran .
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonathan Morton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: VNC Invisible
>
>
> > >or else some rfb applications will be defined as viruses.
> >
> > A virus is a program designed to spread from one computer to another.
> > AFAIK no RFB or VNC implementation is designed to do this. A worm is a
> > special kind of virus which spreads via networks (usually by exploiting
a
> > security flaw).
> >
> > A "trojan horse" OTOH is a program which pretends to be a legitimate
> > program but does something unexpected behind the scenes. I don't think
> VNC
> > falls into this category, even without the icon.
> >
> > VNC could, however, be classified as "spyware" if used without the icon
> AND
> > there is no acceptable-use policy which explicitly states that
"monitoring
> > software may be used at any time without warning".
> >
> > If you want to be Big Brother, you must tell your users that or face the
> > consequences. The icon is a simple and inexpensive way of doing that,
and
> > if you take proper precautions, VNC can be prevented from shutting down
on
> > user request. You could also simply build a "don't shut down VNC"
clause
> > into the AUP - users who have shut down VNC get a personal encounter
with
> > some "sucker rod" [1].
> >
> > [1] - See the syslogd(8) man page on most Linux systems.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > from: Jonathan "Chromatix" Morton
> > mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not for attachments)
> > big-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > uni-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > The key to knowledge is not to rely on people to teach you it.
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ran Sasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: VNC Invisible
>
>
> > that's why I agree with the concept of MUST having a taskbar icon .
> > the "big brother" in full action.
> > I think it's a condition that should be added to the license or
something,
> > or else some rfb applications will be defined as viruses.
> >
> > Ran .
> >
> > ---- Original Message -----
> > From: "Emerson Renato Cavallari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: VNC Invisible
> >
> >
> > > Well.. let4s explain:
> > > I am the network administrator of a central library of USP (University
> of
> > SAO
> > > PAULO - Brazil). Here we have some public machines where everybody has
> > full
> > > access to internet. We don4t want to filter using a proxy.
> > > Here we have about 5000 users in total. Some "bad users" uses the
> computer
> > to
> > > see porn sites and chat. And we use VNC to, sometimes, see what they
are
> > doing
> > > in the computers.
> > > If the user is reading a mail or doing a search, no problems. We
> > disconnect
> > > the VNC and let the user work. But if the user is in a porn or chat
> site,
> > we
> > > go to the physical place where he is and talk about it.
> > > But when they see the vnc icon, they right click the mouse and close
VNC
> > and I
> > > don4t want it.
> > > Could you help?
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Sem mais,
> > >
> > > Imerson Renato Cavallari
> > > Visite o Portal de Informatica - www.portaldeinformatica.com.br
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Norberto Alfredo Bensa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 4:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: VNC Invisible
> > >
> > >
> > > > > Hello:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any way to run VNC invisible. I don4t want that the user
> see
> > the
> > > > icon
> > > > > beside the windows clock.
> > > >
> > > > Why not?
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