Ron,
It is very obvious that English isn't your first language because my
original post was in defense of you and others dealing with the same issue.
Boy, what a "kick in the shorts" when you try to come to somebody's aid and
they think you're there to beat them over the head. Huh!
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Holland's Boy, Bill
- "Only put off until tomorrow what you are willing to die having left
undone."
- Pablo Ruiz y Picasso, 20th Century Artist (1881 - 1973)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Pelletier
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 1:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Where Compassion and Understanding Cross Paths with Frustration
and Impatience
Bill,
You are clearly forgetting that this is a worldwide list and not everyone's
command of the English language is the same. For a great number of people
on this list, English is not their first language and I am one of them. We
all share one thing, we are visually impaired or blind and this is what is
bringing us together. Some of the people on this list may very well have
another impairment and may not have your level of understanding or
education. You clearly need a good dose of knowing how to deal with a
different situation and, having said that, maybe you are one of the people
who has a problem doing that. We respect you for who you are, please
consider returning the favour.
Ron & Danvers
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Chris Hill
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Where Compassion and Understanding Cross Paths with Frustration
and Impatience
Probably the biggest thing that would help everyone's understanding is if
people would just stop a second and listen to their message before posting
it. I know, reading ones own writing isn't fun, but it is better that one
checks to make sure they understand it themselves before they post it and
make us all wonder what they meant. People will need time to reply, so if
it takes a poster an extra second to read their message before posting it,
there shouldn't be much difference in reply speed.
On 4/25/2013 12:39, Bill Gallik wrote:
I want to make a note on this list regarding a recent thread that
appeared to be bashing some members for not taking "due diligence" in
composing messages.
First, let me confess to the fact that I seem to recall having
composed a message chastising folks for careless punctuation -- if any
punctuation at all. And that on the surface, that post may have
seemed inconsiderate, non-supportive and lacking in compassion. But,
also allow me to clearly state that the post was far more a result of
frustration and impatience than a lack of compassion and support.
This entire issue has everything to do with the fact that many of us
must listen to the posts than anybody suffering from "school marmosis."
And when listening to questionably composed messages the screen
readers get really annoying. When I could see to read e-mail
messages, I could not have cared less how well grammar was adhered to in
those messages.
But now that I must listen to the messages, it becomes so very
mind-boggling to try to understand so constructed messages.
I'm not going to call anybody lazy or uneducated or disrespectful, but
I will say that I do find listening to poorly composed messages a
terribly frustrating chore.
Now, please note that I said "listening to . . . messages" (there's an
ellipses embedded within that quoted phrase) can be terribly
frustrating and not that the people who send them are such. There's a
huge difference in that distinction and please be mindful that most of
us are not picking on anybody; we're just frustrated. And that often
is because we all know someone is reaching out for help and we're
having difficulty receiving that plea for help. So folks, please
don't be leaving the list because you think you're being picked on,
that is most likely just not the case. From what I've seen of this
list, there is a whole lot of good will here and a desire to help each
other so do not "throw the baby out with the bath water."
May the Great Creator Bless You All!
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Holland's Boy, Bill
- "Things are more like they are now than they have ever been."
- President Gerald R. Ford (1913 - 2006)
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