You can locate the robot using the app, that's another thing I like about the Roborock and most other brands besides Roomba, they will speak a message indicating what they are doing, Roomba will do this if there is an error but I prefer a robot to tell me its status rather than just playing tones.
> On Jul 17, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Ann Byrne <[email protected]> wrote: > > Will it make a sound so you can locate it if it stops somewhere other than > the docking station?? > At 09:58 PM 7/16/2022, you wrote: >> We bought it from Amazon as part of Amazon Prime Days. >> >> I'd say Mike's review was spot on. My sighted wife and I set it up together, >> but based on what I could see, I could have done the setup completely by >> myself, except for maybe finding the wi-fi button on the Roborock. Except >> for identifying the rooms on the map, the app seems completely accessible. >> Looks like once we identify the rooms, I'll be able to send it to a specific >> room to clean with the app or a voice command. I set up the Siri shortcuts, >> so just with voice commands I can start it cleaning, pause it, send it back >> to it's docking station and change the strength of the suction. >> >> We've only run it through the house once, but it sucked up quite a bit of >> dog and cat hair. It was pretty cool to see it navigate each room. Now that >> it's been through the house once, I wonder if it'll be quicker the next >> time, although except for the dining room with all of it's chairs, it seemed >> to be pretty quick and smart. I'm looking forward to having it stay on top >> of the pet hair throughout the week, especially under the bed. I'm also >> hoping it'll help my wife with her allergies. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Outlook >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kay >> Malmquist >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 7:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Roomba >> >> I will be interested in what you think. I also saw Mike's review and >> thought seriously about buying the Roborock. Do you have any >> recommendations as to the best place to buy one? Years ago, I had two >> Roomba's, one for downstairs and one for up. I liked them and miss them for >> the in-between vacuum jobs they did. >> >> Kay Malmquist >> [email protected] >> >> Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles, it empties today of its >> strength. >> Corrie Ten Boom - 1892-1983 - Watchmaker >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 5:35 PM >> Subject: RE: Roomba >> >> >> A few weeks ago Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> posted the following review >> of several robot vacuum cleaners. I used this myself, and just a few minutes >> ago, we let our Roborock start it's maiden voyage around our house. >> >> I remember a while back there was some discussion about the accessibility of >> apps that are used to control robot vacuums. I now have a small robot vacuum >> collection and have tried each brand's app so I have an idea about which >> apps work the best with Voiceover. Some are definitely better than others. >> I'm going to group these in to three categories, accessible or mostly >> accessible, that is, everything is well labeled or at least easy to use with >> Voiceover's recognition abilities, useable but not the most accessible, >> meaning you can use the app but some of the controls are not labeled and you >> will have to memorize the order of where they are on the screen, and mostly >> unuseable, that is, you will need sighted help to do at least some things in >> the app since they are impossible to do using voiceover. One other thing to >> note, many robots will map your house and let you define rooms or no go >> zones by drawing on the map. Unfortunately there is no way to do that using >> Voiceover with any of these apps and I'm not even sure how that could be >> made accessible since it involves drawing, so your choices are to get >> sighted help if you want to use those features or just let the robot clean >> the entire place each time which is what I do. >> Ok, let's start with the most accessible category, these are in no >> particular order. >> The Irobot home app is used for the Roomba robots and works very well with >> Voiceover. For the most part, everything is well labeled, there are a few >> places where voiceover has to guess at what a control is but it does >> describe those controls well. I had no problems setting up my Roomba J7 Plus >> totally without sighted help. This app is very interactive which I like, at >> times it will display tips and tricks or ask you how the robot did on its >> last run and this is all completely accessible. If you decide you want to >> get a Roomba you will have no trouble at all using the app. >> Next up is the Roborock app. As a side note, I think Roborock is one of the >> best, if not the best brand of robot vacuums available, their cleaning and >> navigation is excellent. I discovered something with this app, I actually >> have two different Roborock models and the controls read slightly >> differently depending on which robot you choose to control from the home >> screen. This makes me wonder if the app is actually downloading this content >> from the robot itself. Either way, the app is very easy to use and navigate >> with voiceover. So, depending on which Roborock model you choose to get, >> things may read slightly different. For example, when I open the entry for >> the Roborock S4 Max and come to the settings option, Voiceover says >> "settings." On the other hand, when I choose the Roborock S7 Max V, which is >> Roborock's current top of the line model and one that I would absolutely >> recommend, the settings option says "possibly games, more." Once you know >> that this opens the settings screen for the robot it works fine. One other >> minor quirk about how the app reads, while in the settings screen, if you >> turn a setting off, Voiceover says "off," but when you enable a feature, >> rather than saying "on," Voiceover says "Open." Changing the cleaning >> settings such as the suction power and mop intensity works fine. >> On both the Irobot and Roborock apps, reading the battery level and robot >> status works fine. The Irobot app will indicate if the battery is high, >> medium or low, where as the Roborock app indicates the battery level as a >> percentage. >> The next app I will mention is the Eufy Home app. Eufy is a brand made by >> Anker which is known for their power banks and battery chargers. Eufy makes >> a line of robot vacuums called Robovac. Again, this app works well with >> Voiceover. Getting my Robovac X8 connected to my network worked fine and the >> controls for starting and stopping the robot, as well as changing the >> suction power are completely accessible. I prefer to run my robots on >> maximum power, I figure if the robot has the power available, why not use it >> for a better clean? One minor quirk about this app, there is no way that I >> know of to read the battery level, you can tell if the robot is charging or >> fully charged but that's all. >> Now we will move on to the second category. I currently only have one app in >> this category, the app is useable but not as easy to use since many of the >> buttons are unlabeled. The Trifo app fits this category. I have the Trifo >> Lucy pet edition robot and this app is used to control it. This app uses a >> different method to set up the network connection. With most other robots, >> you enter your WI-FI network name and password in to the app and then you >> connect your phone to a temporary network that the robot creates and the app >> uses this to transfer the network information to it. With the Trifo robots, >> you enter the network information and the app creates a QR code that is >> displayed on your phone's screen. You hold your phone's screen in front of >> the robot and the robot's camera reads the QR code. I was able to get this >> to work without sighted help but I had to turn off the screen curtain >> feature of Voiceover. This app has a lot of buttons that are unlabeled so >> Voiceover just says "button." The most important buttons, the start and stop >> cleaning button and the button to return to the dock are unlabeled as well >> as the buttons for map management and the button to change the suction >> setting. I was able to figure out what each button does after some >> experimentation but I definitely want to contact Trifo about this and >> hopefully they will label these buttons appropriately. Changing the suction >> to maximum works fine once you get to the right screen, it's a percentage >> slider and I set mine to 100 percent for the highest setting. >> Ok, now on to the remaining two apps that I have tried, I had to get sighted >> help at different points in order to get these apps to work. Let's start >> with the MII home app, this app is used to control several different robots >> made by Dreametech and a few other brands. I have the Dreametech L10 pro, >> creating an account and connecting the robot to my network worked fine so >> again, I'm wondering if the app is downloading the screens that are >> displayed from the robot itself once it's connected, regardless it ends up >> the same. It's possible to get in to the settings screen but when toggling >> options, it reads very strangely. The check box that you need to double tap >> on to toggle each option is after the option description and when you enable >> it, voiceover doesn't say anything, when you disable it, voiceover says >> "plate." I had to get sighted help to figure this out and I also needed >> sighted help to set the suction power to maximum, you can get in to the >> cleaning settings screen but Voiceover does not see the control for changing >> the suction power at all, apparently it's a circle with each setting shown >> as a larger fan, totally nonstandard. Once everything is set, you can read >> the battery level and start and stop cleaning but even with this control you >> can tell that Voiceover is guessing at what it is, it's not labeled. When >> swiping through the screen, sometimes Voiceover does not say anything. For >> these reasons I am considering this robot to be one of the least accessible >> when using Voiceover though it does clean well. >> The last app I will talk about is the Neabot app used to control the Neabot >> Q11, again a very good robot as far as cleaning goes, but this is the least >> accessible robot vacuum app I have used. I had to get sighted help several >> times. First, creating an account is not possible without sighted help >> because there is no way to access the Register" item. Voiceover says "don't >> have an account yet? Register" and it sees that as one item when it should >> be two items. Double tapping does not work so you have to get sighted help >> to tap on "register" with Voiceover turned off. After that creating the >> account works fine and connecting the robot to the network can be done >> without sighted help but once that is done, you really start to see the >> accessibility issues. You can read the battery level and the "Start >> cleaning" option works fine, but everything else is either completely >> unlabeled or even when Voiceover tries to guess what something is, the >> descriptions are not very helpful. With lots of patience you can get in to >> the main robot settings screen which is where the firmware update option is, >> and this also has problems. When there is a firmware update, Voiceover sees >> the text describing the update, the cancel, and the update options all as >> one item, this should be three. I was able to update the firmware by turning >> Voiceover off and tapping towards the bottom right of the screen but I think >> I was just lucky enough to tap in the right place. Also, setting the suction >> to maximum required sighted help, Voiceover does not see the control for >> changing the suction power at all. I have contacted Neabot about these >> issues and never got a response. >> So to finish this review, at this time the most accessible robot vacuum apps >> I have tried are from Irobot, Roborock and Eufy. All of these brands are >> good but Roborock is my favorite because of its excellent cleaning and >> navigation. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Outlook >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 2:53 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Roomba >> >> Yep >> iPhone app is accessible and it can be controlled by Google home or Alexa. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary >> Anne Lynskey >> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2022 1:02 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Roomba >> >> Good afternoon everyone. I am curious. Have any of you experience using a >> Roomba? 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