>From AppleVis.com: Grouped Navigation Grouped Navigation is another new VoiceOver feature in iOS 15; the purpose of this new navigation style is to group certain types of similar screen items together so that your interaction can be more manageable with that group. For example, in the Mail app, the messages list when in an email account is its own group. However, it's important to note that Grouped Navigation is a work-in-progress, as indicated by struggles I have had with this feature. With Mail, for example, having Grouped Navigation enabled allows you to swipe past the "Dictate" button, but will not continue onto the group of messages. Instead, you must hit the touchscreen, and when you do, it will automatically start interacting. You can also move by container to get into the group, but that seems like more trouble than it's worth. The intent is to make this feature work like it does on the Mac, as evidenced by the 2-finger swipe right to begin interacting, and 2-finger swipe left to stop interacting with a group. On a keyboard, VO modifier with Shift Down Arrow will enter a grouping, while VO modifier with Shift Up Arrow will stop interaction. There appears to not be a braille display keyboard equivalent for these actions. At the moment, I am not finding Grouped Navigation to be a feature I will be using. If you find it of use, you can add it to the VoiceOver rotor to toggle off and on, as well as toggle it in Quick Settings or by going to Settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Navigation Style.
Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 7:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."] There is an option in the VoiceOver Rotor settings to add Navigation Style to the Rotor. Once there, when you turn the Rotor to Navigation style, you have two options; flat, or grouped. So far, I am clueless what it should do. If Apple actually made a reasonably accessible user guide, it would be easier. I searched for Navigation style in the iPhone User Guide in Apple's Books app, found it, but then trying to read it with VoiceOver proved crazy making with the focus jumping. I need to sit down with my braille display and go through it but have not had time. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd45e92ec5d2645a12b3208d97f64fdc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637680894009873290%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=w2QsFUasv4rf1gZV%2Bk18t7P%2FiBBQbjP3NuLJAL3x6nA%3D&reserved=0 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."] I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you find it in Settings or in an open app? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."] I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the point where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find it, and for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of us? -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anna Dresner Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM To: VIPhone Mailing List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Weather. Hi, You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group. Best, Anna > On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Star Gazer > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Weather. > > Yes you have to go line by lne > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and barometric >> pressure? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Star Gazer >> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Weather. >> >> It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Carolyn >> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Weather. >> >> >> >> I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since >> yesterday, we had a whole lot. 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