Here’s what the online iPhone user guide has to say: Use flat or grouped navigation Go to Settings > Accessibility > VoiceOver > Navigation Style, then choose one of the following: Flat: VoiceOver moves sequentially through each item on the screen when you use the move next and previous commands. Grouped: VoiceOver moves through items and groups of items on the screen. To move into a group, use a two-finger swipe right. To move out of a group, use a two-finger swipe left.
I’m none the wiser not having played around with this feature yet. Malcolm Parfitt > On 24 Sep 2021, at 15:10, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is an option in the VoiceOver Rotor settings to add Navigation Style > to the Rotor. > Once there, when you turn the Rotor to Navigation style, you have two > options; flat, or grouped. > So far, I am clueless what it should do. > If Apple actually made a reasonably accessible user guide, it would be easier. > I searched for Navigation style in the iPhone User Guide in Apple's Books > app, found it, but then trying to read it with VoiceOver proved crazy making > with the focus jumping. > I need to sit down with my braille display and go through it but have not had > time. > > > > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 6:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."] > > I never heard of group navigation until Anna's post. What is it? Do you find > it in Settings or in an open app? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Group navigation [was "RE: Weather."] > > I tried group navigation for a few weeks and just couldn't get to the point > where it was making me more efficient. I'm wondering how people find it, and > for those who find it useful, do you have any tips for the rest of us? > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Outlook > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anna > Dresner > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 9:28 PM > To: VIPhone Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Weather. > > Hi, > > You can also turn the rotor to Containers and flick up and down to move > through sections. of the screen. Or use Grouped navigation style, flick to a > group, and flick right with two fingers to see the information in that group. > > Best, > Anna > > >> On Sep 23, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Oh, OK then, I'm a fairly fast flicker. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Star Gazer >> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 1:17 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Weather. >> >> Yes you have to go line by lne >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:50, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I found hour by hour, but would that give sunrise and sunset and >>> barometric pressure? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>> Of Star Gazer >>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:26 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Weather. >>> >>> It’s at the very bottom of the screen and you have to scroll hour by hour >>> >>> >>> >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>> Carolyn >>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 11:36 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Weather. >>> >>> >>> >>> I llike the new feature of telling about the rain, especially, since >>> yesterday, we had a whole lot. 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