I never use a case and don’t care about coordinating it with my clothing as 
it’s in  a bag when I’m out.

I can see a little; don’t know if I’d care about the colour if I couldn’t; 
doubt it though.

All the best
Angie


> On 15 Sep 2021, at 17:46, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
> see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
> those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
> coordinated with your clothing as well?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
> 12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from 
> the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a 
> pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It 
> would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about 
> regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/15/21, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>>> will be getting!
>>>> 
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>>> with it.”
>>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Web site:
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>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>>> 
>>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
>>>>> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time 
>>>>> mid next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the 
>>>>> exact date.
>>>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
>>>>> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
>>>>> potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
>>>>> device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
>>>>> verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 
>>>>> 15 before I upgrade.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less 
>>>>> reason, just
>>>>> 1
>>>>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year 
>>>>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other 
>>>>> than those who think they always have to have the latest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
>>>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
>>>>> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in 
>>>>> Australia and was not impressed.
>>>>> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be 
>>>>> upgrading any hardware this year.
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I 
>>>>> have an iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 
>>>>> Pro and also an Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last 
>>>>> year's latest basic iPad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad 
>>>>> Mini sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade 
>>>>> I would consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
>>>>> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones 
>>>>> new camera systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max 
>>>>> also on the Pro Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, 
>>>>> for most blind people this is of little relevance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is 
>>>>> in all iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I 
>>>>> missed it, but I don't think so.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward 
>>>>> to next year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, 
>>>>> maybe we'll see some more compelling new features.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which 
>>>>> were not mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy 
>>>>> my wife a new headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for 
>>>>> whenever Sonos will release their headset. Until then we'll save 
>>>>> our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking at upgrading our 
>>>>> 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high efficiency 
>>>>> model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I 
>>>>> want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to 
>>>>> keep our current ones for another 10 years 🤣
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>> 
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