That did sound like a pretty good deal, but the listing has ended and in any case, I am in Canada and the seller said he only ships to the US.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: accessible measuring app? I found one on ebay if you have an account. Here's the link if you are interested. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F264469004125 Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2019, at 12:38 PM, Matthew Bullis <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I believe the talking tape measure is in the Maxi Aids catalog or the Independent Living Aids catalog. I ordered it from one of those about five years ago, but can't remember which one. Matthew On 9/20/19, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Doing a Google search did give me this: Talking Tape Measure by Cobalt – horizons for the Blind<https://www.horizons-blind.org/product/talking-tape-measure-by-cobolt/> You can of course contact Cobalt directly in England<https://www.cobolt.co.uk/products/index/talking-tape-measure>, they’ll ship to you as far as I know and without the 9 Volt battery it costs 52.95 British Pounds which converts approx. to $66 to $68, maybe $70 max. if your credit card charges a bit of a higher exchange rate On this Horizons for the Blind Website it’s $105 US and I have a feeling it will cost less than $35 US to ship it from England. I actually was planning to get one shipped, I have 1 which doesn’t work any more and my second one is getting a bit beat up and I believe if you send them back they’ll fix them up or replace them. Here in Canada the CNIB sells them and I find it interesting how a governmental agency puts such a huge mark-up on stuff, they want $169.95 Canadian for it and it actually shows it’s out of stock and they don’t know when they get more. 52.95 British Pounds converts to approx. 88 Canadian Dollars so their price is almost double. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 9:04 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app? Hi Sieghard, Do you know of a North American distributer for the Cobolt Talking Tape? Thanks, Richard Richard 🖖 Live long and prosper Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com><http://www.turner42.com/> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 8:43 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app? I have been doing woodworking for 20 years and I absolutely agree that a Click Rule or talking tape measure are absolutely essential if you want to do stuff with any degree of accuracy. There is also the Rotomatic (not sure if I spell this correctly), it is somewhat the same concept as a Click Rule, but I believe instead of pulling out a threaded rod which then makes a click every sixteenth of an inch the Rotomatic works by the user turning a stop along a threaded rod and it can give you accuracy down to a 1/64 of an inch whereas the imperial click rule is accurate to 1/16 of an inch and the metric click rule is accurate to 1mm which is better than a sixteenth, but not quite as good a 1/32. Having said this, 1/16 is adequate in a lot of situations and 1mm is of course even better. The Cobalt talking tape measure if set to imperial is also accurate to 1/16 and if set to metric it is 1mm. I like the fact that you can include the length of the housing in your measurement if, for example, you want to measure the inside of a cabinet or drawer, you can also measure something and push a button to add that measurement to memory, then measure the next item and add it and so on and in the end push a button to get a total. This can be handy if you do things like baseboard trim, they usually come in 16 foot length so I could go and measure several walls and add up each measurement until I get close to 16 feet and this way I can minimize waste. The Cobalt can also be set to read out in inches, feet and inches, e.g. 25 inches or 2 feet 1 inches, on the metric side you can do metres, centimetres or millimeters, e.g. 1 metre and 10 centimetres can also be read as 110 centimetres or 1,010 millimetres. I assume that Tape King can maybe do the same, but I don’t know. Max, could you contact me off-list as I’d love to learn more about Tape King. I have both a couple of Cobalt tape measures, I have I think 4 imperial click rules and 1 metric because when I am really working on a larger project I often will use 2 or 3 at the same time, e.g. if I want to measure how far away from the edge of a sheet of plywood the rail of my track saw is especially if I am cutting along the 8 foot length of the plywood, it is much better to have a click rule on each end than to run around with a single one. There is absolutely no way an app is going to be accurate enough for any sort of good woodworking and I highly doubt you would see a single professional and sighted woodworker use an app like the Measure app over a tape measure even though they could probably use it with much better precision in terms of lining up start and end point. The fact is that if you want to do any sort of woodworking it will be an expensive hobby. Lastly, don’t forget the usefulness of setup blocks/bars like these: 15 piece setup bar set<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chipsfly.com%2Fproduct%2F12-235.html&data=02%7C01%7C%7C38b6963939714eaa288808d73de129c0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637045909581367476&sdata=%2Bw4BAlHp%2Bz5l06G376xOTQrvEx29%2BB%2FujyLoZS5oHWc%3D&reserved=0> This 15-piece set is one of the most complete and best I have found, I also have a couple of smaller 5 or 6 piece ones which you can get in metric or imperial and if I know I want to rip a 2 inch strip off something on my table saw or I want to set the height on my router bit to half an inch than using the appropriate setup bar is way easier than trying to set the table saw fence with the click rule. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Robert Wright Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 12:39 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: accessible measuring app? Unfortunately, this address is no longer valid. ******If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why? then where does the learning start?*** From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:16 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: accessible measuring app? Fascinating, hate to think of the possible price. robH. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Turner" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2019 1:44 AM Subject: Re: accessible measuring app? The below came from the Vision Aware site of AFB. The Click Rule The Click Rule is a metal tubular device slightly longer than 7 1/2 inches. A 7-inch threaded rod is inserted into the tube. A knurled locking knob is screwed into the top of the threaded rod through a long slot that has been machined into the tube. [closeup of someone using the Click Rule to measure a board] The Click Rule As the threaded rod is extended into and out of the tube, a clicking sound can be heard at 1/16-inch intervals. The threaded rod has raised threads every 1/2 inch. The metal tube has two flat rectangular stops or fences mounted on it. One stop or fence is located precisely at the open end of the tube and the raised thread rod protrudes through it. The other stop or fence is positioned exactly six inches along the tube from the stop at the open end of the tube. The Click Rule comes with three 12-inch extension rods that screw into the end of the Click Rule raised thread rod and into each other, enabling accurate measurements at 1/16-inch intervals, from zero to four feet. Additional extension rods can enable measurements beyond four feet. [The Click Rule with a one-foot extension rod in place] Click Rule with a one-foot extension rod The Click Rule can be purchased from the National Federation of the Blind Online Store<http://secure.nfb.org/ecommerce/asp/default.asp> and from Community Advocates Inc., P.O. Box 83304, Lincoln, NE 68501-3304; 402-486-3091<tel:402-486-3091>. Richard Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 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