You can't assume that everyone has a smart phone or speaker.  Suppose something 
happens to your phone or speaker.  Suppose you lose your Internet?  Using an 
app or smart speaker is a great convenience, but cannot be the only solution 
for accessibility.

Andy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christopher Chaltain 
  To: [email protected] ; Larry Lumpkin 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:48 PM
  Subject: Re: IOS apps with smart appliances


  True, but that doesn't mean that appliance manufacturers shouldn't let people 
control their appliances through an accessible app or a smart speaker.





  On 4/23/19 8:14 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

    Offering an accessible app for an appliance does not, in my opinion, make 
that appliance accessible. The appliance needs to be accessible independently. 



    From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
    Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:53 AM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: IOS apps with smart appliances



     You could but it would be less convenient.

    Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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    On Apr 22, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Cristobal Muñoz <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      This is always my concern with such expensive items like this.

      Let me ask, would you still be able to operate it independently should 
you have issues with your WIFI network or some other variable that would make 
Alexa or an associated app go wonky?





      From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
      Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 5:21 AM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: IOS apps with smart appliances



      We just bought a GE range with WIFI and Alexa connectivity and it seems 
to be working pretty well for me. The model we have is part of the Cafe line 
which also has washers, driers, dish washers and microwaves. I have no 
experience with any appliance except the range, but so far my experience has 
been positive. I suggest starting your search with the Cafe line. Also feel 
free to reach out privately for more indepth information if this is something 
you are seriously considering as these appliances are rather pricey. 





      Kim 

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      On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:

        I am on a similar search but for a range (cooktop/oven). I gave up a 
couple of years ago regarding an accessible, connected washer/dryer and bought 
a Miele set which is all buttons as in actual buttons you can feel although 
there are still options to select on a screen, but some of those are things you 
don't really need, sometimes an app like Seeing AI can pick it up and for those 
times when I actually have to use it and still need more help I just call Aira, 
Be My Eyes or my Mom using Facetime. For the most part my wife takes care of 
it, it's just once a year or so when she goes back to the Philippines for a few 
weeks when I have to use it independently.

        I have come to realize that it does not seem like there is a range 
which will be fully accessible, I have seen some which have WiFi, but so far I 
have only ever read that you can only control the oven. Anyhow, I could see how 
it would also be pretty inconvenient if you cook and you want to quickly turn 
the temperature of a burner up or down a bit when you are busy doing other 
stuff , maybe your hands are dirty etc. This would not be a good time where you 
have to unlock your phone and fiddle around with an app, in such as case the 
only thing which would make sense is if you could Alexa/Google Home and give a 
quick voice command which would be carried out instantly.

        One thing I did notice on the GE website was that they are talking 
about "ADA compliance" and one of our local stores actually send me an email 
after I asked them to look into something with analogue controls and said that 
some companies mentioned they had braille overlays for the touch screen. I plan 
to call GE tomorrow (if they are open) or Tuesday and hopefully find out a bit 
more. Their ranges actually get some pretty good reviews, so I definitely would 
like to chat with them.

        I am always amazed that given the number of government organisations in 
existence as well as all the private advocacy groups and people that nobody has 
done more to work with the major appliance makers to find a better solution. I 
bet nowadays a lot of these appliances run some sort of version of Android and 
it might not take all that much to make them talk on their own.

        Best regards,
        Sieghard

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
        Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 8:12 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: IOS apps with smart appliances

        Hello:

        Has anyone used or tested the accessibility of the LG, Samsung or GE 
apps with WIFI enabled washer and driers? We are in the market to purchasing a 
new washer and drier and hoping to find something that is accessible with using 
the Apps given that most of the washers and driers these days have touch 
screens.

        Thank you,



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