True, but that doesn't mean that appliance manufacturers shouldn't let people control their appliances through an accessible app or a smart speaker.

On 4/23/19 8:14 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

Offering an accessible app for an appliance does not, in my opinion, make that appliance accessible. The appliance needs to be accessible independently.

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 You could but it would be less convenient.

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On Apr 22, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Cristobal Muñoz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    This is always my concern with such expensive items like this.

    Let me ask, would you still be able to operate it independently
    should you have issues with your WIFI network or some other
    variable that would make Alexa or an associated app go wonky?

    *From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> *On
    Behalf Of *Kimberly
    *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 5:21 AM
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    *Subject:* Re: IOS apps with smart appliances

    We just bought a GE range with WIFI and Alexa connectivity and it
    seems to be working pretty well for me. The model we have is part
    of the Cafe line which also has washers, driers, dish washers and
    microwaves. I have no experience with any appliance except the
    range, but so far my experience has been positive. I suggest
    starting your search with the Cafe line. Also feel free to reach
    out privately for more indepth information if this is something
    you are seriously considering as these appliances are rather pricey.

    Kim

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    On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I am on a similar search but for a range (cooktop/oven). I
        gave up a couple of years ago regarding an accessible,
        connected washer/dryer and bought a Miele set which is all
        buttons as in actual buttons you can feel although there are
        still options to select on a screen, but some of those are
        things you don't really need, sometimes an app like Seeing AI
        can pick it up and for those times when I actually have to use
        it and still need more help I just call Aira, Be My Eyes or my
        Mom using Facetime. For the most part my wife takes care of
        it, it's just once a year or so when she goes back to the
        Philippines for a few weeks when I have to use it independently.

        I have come to realize that it does not seem like there is a
        range which will be fully accessible, I have seen some which
        have WiFi, but so far I have only ever read that you can only
        control the oven. Anyhow, I could see how it would also be
        pretty inconvenient if you cook and you want to quickly turn
        the temperature of a burner up or down a bit when you are busy
        doing other stuff , maybe your hands are dirty etc. This would
        not be a good time where you have to unlock your phone and
        fiddle around with an app, in such as case the only thing
        which would make sense is if you could Alexa/Google Home and
        give a quick voice command which would be carried out instantly.

        One thing I did notice on the GE website was that they are
        talking about "ADA compliance" and one of our local stores
        actually send me an email after I asked them to look into
        something with analogue controls and said that some companies
        mentioned they had braille overlays for the touch screen. I
        plan to call GE tomorrow (if they are open) or Tuesday and
        hopefully find out a bit more. Their ranges actually get some
        pretty good reviews, so I definitely would like to chat with them.

        I am always amazed that given the number of government
        organisations in existence as well as all the private advocacy
        groups and people that nobody has done more to work with the
        major appliance makers to find a better solution. I bet
        nowadays a lot of these appliances run some sort of version of
        Android and it might not take all that much to make them talk
        on their own.

        Best regards,
        Sieghard

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        Hello:

        Has anyone used or tested the accessibility of the LG, Samsung
        or GE apps with WIFI enabled washer and driers? We are in the
        market to purchasing a new washer and drier and hoping to find
        something that is accessible with using the Apps given that
        most of the washers and driers these days have touch screens.

        Thank you,



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