There are just some people for whatever reason who have a chip on their shoulder


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> On Jan 28, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Lynda Ingraham <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Very well said.
>  
> Lynda
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:29 PM
> To: [email protected]; David Moore
> Subject: Re: Aira
>  
> Just because not everyone can afford or wants to use this service doesn't 
> mean those who can afford it and want to use it shouldn't be able to. Not 
> everyone always has access to sighted assistance, and using this service 
> doesn't mean you can't talk to people around you. I really think people who 
> find this service beneficial should use it and those who don't shouldn't. I'm 
> not sure why I have to hear from people who don't like this service about how 
> lazy or antisocial it's making me. Why do people have to tell other people 
> how to live their lives?
> 
>  
> 
> Makes me think this whole issue about whether this is on topic for this list 
> or not is driven by people who have something against Aira and not out of a 
> genuine concern for advertising on this list.
> 
>  
> 
> On 1/27/19 4:10 PM, David Moore wrote:
> Hi Andy,
> I tob tally agree as well.
> How many blind people can afford $200.00 or more a month to get unlimited 
> service to have an entire play at the theater described for them.
> The people who are so passionate about this service, don’t realize that the 
> blind are 70 percent unemployed.
> What about those people?
> I went to the Ohio State University and went everywhere I wanted to go with 
> my good, old cane, and I do so today.
> Technology is just getting out of hand, I think.
> It is making some people lazy.
> Also, why are blind people alone all of the time.
> I hear so many blind people say that they are alone here and there, and they 
> need this service.
> I always have people around everywhere I go , practically.
> How many sighted people go out and roam around alone.
> Another thing this brings up, is that blind people need to be with sighted 
> people, instead of using a service like this.
> We are becoming a society where everyone wants to do everything for him or 
> her self, instead of relying on each other.
> Many cultures would not think of doing so many things alone like we do in the 
> west, and I assume Australia
> And New Zealand.
> Mexicans love to live with their extended family.
> They would not live alone if their life depended on it.
> Technology like this AIRA, are just causing people to be alone more with 
> their technology.
> When I ride the bus, I am always talking to people.
> I do not even want to get on my phone!
> I love talking to strangers the whole time I am out, , not on a device.
> Thanks for putting up with my little rant.
> Sometimes, I think the blind were better off, when they had to get a reader 
> to read everything to them, and they had to remember it or take good Braille 
> notes as the human read to them.
> New is not always better for people!
> Have a great one,
> David Moore
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>  
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Aira
>  
> I agree!
>  
> Considering that most blind people are unemployed, and that the average
> income of blind folks is well below that of those who are not blind, aiRa
> will only be feasible for a minority of blind people, thus making services
> like Be My Eyes, and platforms like MS Seeing AI a welcome alternative.
>  
> Andy
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cristóbal Muñoz" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:05 PM
> Subject: RE: Aira
>  
>  
> As with most things in life. You get what you pay for...
> And this isn't meant to denigrate BeMyEyes or the people who volunteer
> through the service, but keep in mind you're talking about well intentioned
> people who are still just volunteers at the end of the day.
>  
> Cristóbal
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marie
> Lyons
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:53 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Aira
>  
> I can only tell you about “Be my eyes” and a difficulty I experienced. A
> volunteer said, ”over there”. That isn’t very helpful to a blind person. I
> do know of 2 stores who offer “Aira” for free: Wallgreens and Wegmanns. This
> is done by using the app on your iPhone.
>  
> Marie Lyons
>  
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> > On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Holly <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello:
> > 
> > I just joined this group yesterday.  I have been following the discussion
> > concerning Aira.
> > 
> > I am certain that most of you know about the app 'Be My Eyes', which is
> > free and essentially operates like Aira, although the sighted people
> > answering the phones are volunteers, not paid operators.
> > 
> > I have never had a particular reason to use either app, as am living with
> > a sighted partner.
> > 
> > Could anyone tell me how they compare?  The paid version seems very
> > expensive for low income people.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
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