Hello there, Sieghard,

I have a Braille Sense U2 Mini, so I would have to find the correct commands 
for that.

As for that app Home, it is totally useless to me, and I have no need for it.  
So I would have kicked that goofy (smile) app out for good.

The only thing I abhor about Apple is that they tend to put many apps on all 
products that are often useless and cannot be deleted completely due to them 
being native apps.  That really sucks!  Yes, these folks at Apple Inc. are 
missing something in a large way.

Not just Apple but other companies do the same.  I just do not understand how 
these folks act like this.  they like to show off by saying there are apps you 
need but the opposite is true.

It is just a real goof on them!

Thank you, Sieghard, for the information concerning the Home app.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

Hi Todd,

Apple has come up with a standard for home automation devices. These are things 
like connected thermostats, lights like the Philipps Hue, door locks, automated 
sprinkler control systems, cameras, devices to open and close curtains or 
blinds and so on. If you have any such devices and they support Apple's Home 
Kit standard they will appear in the Home app.

I don't have a braille display, but maybe you know what commands to use if I 
tell you how I delete apps and if you have ever moved apps you are half way 
there. First, if I swipe up or down on any app on any home screen, Voiceover 
says "Arrange Apps". At that point you can swipe up  or down again with one 
finger and this will go back and forth between "Activate Item" or "Move" 
followed by the name of the app.  If you then double tap on "Activate Item" you 
will be asked if you want to delete the app and you can confirm and it will be 
deleted.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1

Chris,

You mean that app is more for managing your personal doings?

It is still on my iPhone now.  How do one remove that Home app?  Remember I am 
deafblind so I am a strong Braille user.

Thank you.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:30 AM
To: Viphone <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1

Hi

The "home" app is the hub for managing homekit devices. I simply removed it in 
the very first, and I mean very first, non-public, beta of iOS 10, as I have no 
homekit devices and was simply not interested.


> On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:09, Todd Patkus <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> To all:
>  
> Many of you may know this, but wonder if any of y’all know exactly what the 
> Home app that was appended to iOS 10.1.1 is for?  Exactly what does Home do?
>  
> If any of y’all have used it for a time, share some of your experiences with 
> it.
>  
> Todd
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