Huh. Good point. Admittedly you might want to reuse very similar VM for both 
Windows and Linux.

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  Bronek Kozicki
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2018, at 8:25 PM, Brett Foster wrote:
> Wait, we're talking about Linux +ati drivers? Alright, then I have no 
> idea... but if it's windows, try the 440 and see if that helps.
> 
> Brett
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device
> 
>   Original Message  
> From: b...@spamcop.net
> Sent: December 27, 2018 12:21 PM
> To: fost...@edgeandvertex.org; erra...@yourstruly.sx; vfio-users@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [vfio-users] Installing Catalyst prevents VM from booting.
> 
> Some Linuxes do not boot on 440FX (at least, not for me with booting 
> with UEFI, which is recommended for GPU passthrough).
> 
> 
> B.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2018, at 8:18 PM, Brett Foster wrote:
> > Why use q35? I always thought that wasn't recommended. At least a couple 
> > years ago, that was my impression.
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device
> > 
> >   Original Message  
> > From: erra...@yourstruly.sx
> > Sent: December 27, 2018 12:12 PM
> > To: fost...@edgeandvertex.org; b...@spamcop.net
> > Cc: vfio-users@redhat.com
> > Subject: Re: [vfio-users] Installing Catalyst prevents VM from booting.
> > 
> > 
> > BTW I think the specific reason you want to separate your pcie endpoints 
> > on q35 from the root complex using a switch or up/downstream ports is 
> > due to the fact that the root complex has direct access to memory. I 
> > can't find anything more specific regarding why that might be 
> > problematic but I know that pcie addressing is different for devices 
> > downstream as opposed to being connected directly to the root complex. I 
> > arrived at the conclusion that the amd driver works now with q35 because 
> > changed the topology as per the advice I read somewhere regarding how it 
> > should be done. I'd like to know for sure but I don't really understand 
> > PCIe well enough and I think as far as the driver is concerned its up to 
> > a guess as to why one configuration works and the other doesn't (unless 
> > you have better luck getting the windows remote kernel debugging to work 
> > than I have.)
> > ________________________________________
> > From: vfio-users-boun...@redhat.com <vfio-users-boun...@redhat.com> on 
> > behalf of Brett Foster <fost...@edgeandvertex.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 11:24:48 AM
> > To: Bronek Kozicki
> > Cc: vfio-users
> > Subject: Re: [vfio-users] Installing Catalyst prevents VM from booting.
> > 
> > I have been using AMD via i440fx for like 5 years or so (across 
> > different hardware and graphics cards). The drivers that work are the 
> > ones that come via Windows Update. The drivers distributed by AMD do 
> > not. Not sure why since presumably they come from the same place. lol.
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 9:51 AM Bronek Kozicki 
> > <b...@spamcop.net<mailto:b...@spamcop.net>> wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Dec 2018, at 4:21 PM, Paige Thompson wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > From what I understand in general connecting devices straight to the
> > > root complex is problematic and they should be connected to a bridge. I
> > > was kind of wondering if anybody had any knowledge of this. I find the
> > > configuration really confusing. I still cant really tell how the
> > > topology works.
> > 
> > 
> > Hope Alex will shed some light on it when he's back from the holiday break.
> > 
> > 
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> >   Bronek Kozicki
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