On Wed, 2001-09-05 at 22:01, Dave wrote: > just curios.. my understanding is that the whole qmail, vpopmail, mysql > conglomerate creates a "pop before smtp" authentication protocol, and netscape > ignores this and tries to authenticate using smtp anyway, thus hitting an error > since smtp isn't tied into the vchkpw in the mysql... is this generally the > problem? No, this is not the problem. You are mixing apples and oranges, specifically: 1) smtp authentication before relay 2) pop authentication before relay The pop method is invisible to the Mail User Agent so Netscape has no problem with it. When you setup Netscape there is a way to type in your user name to send to the smtp server. If you do that, netscape assumes there is smtp authentication. If you do not type anything in for user/smtp server, then it does not try. If you want to use the pop method don't tell netscape to try the smtp authentication method. If you want to use smtp authentication then give netscape the smtp user name values. So it sounds like your problem is Netscape is not configured for what ever method you are trying to use. > > latest versions >.30 seem to solve this by their description, is this the case > or are we still without the ability to service netscape users? All the releases back to the first ones that supported roaming users has worked with netscape. I know because I used netscape as my MUA. All current releases also work. the current 5.0 pre release definitly works with smtp authentication. I know because I set one up last week and it worked fine. > > any hacks to remedy this? No hacks needed, you probably have something misconfigured, or it is some other, unrelated issue. ken