It appears that Martin Thomson  <m...@lowentropy.net> said:
>There is a piece missing. Yaron mentioned Alpaca. For that what we need to say 
>is what Alexey might fear: application protocols
>MUST define ALPN labels and use them.

Well, you know, ALPACA is the predictable result of three decades of web 
browsers accepting any crud from
broken web servers and trying to guess what it was supposed to mean.  It'd be 
more effective to say that browsers
MUST send ALPNs and MUST NOT accept responses that don't send an expected ALPN 
back.  That's seems
more likely to happen as people implement http/2 than that mail and IMAP and 
FTP servers that don't care about ALPNs will
add them to defend against attacks that don't affect them.

I made my mail servers a lot less useful for that particular hack by adjusting 
them to drop the connection after
any bad command since real mail clients never send bad commands.  (They weren't 
useful for ALPACA
anyway since I don't run mail and web servers with the same domain name but 
it's the thought that counts.)

R's,
John
 


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