Hi Henning,

> Hi,
> 
> As a developer for an email security gateway, I'm all in favor of validating 
> the SAN instead of the CN on the
> SMTP level.
> 
> And though SMTP mostly uses opportunistic TLS, mandatory use of TLS is 
> increasing with more people
> adopting MTA-STS.
> 
> Now, the proposed RFC is specifically scoped to TLS certificates. I think 
> pushing the same thing for SMIME
> certificates would also be useful.

I don't think S/MIME is in scope of UTA charter...

Regards,
Valery.

> Kind regards,
> Henning
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Uta [mailto:uta-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Viktor Dukhovni
> > Sent: Montag, 15. März 2021 11:32
> > To: uta@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [Uta] Adoption of draft-rsalz-use-san
> >
> > > On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:58 AM, Eliot Lear <lear=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Architecturally, Rich is nailing it.  We should be encouraging the use of
> > SANs.  However, use of SANs beyond the scope of the web may not be
> > entirely ubiquitous, and so we should  either be a bit more targeted, or 
> > slow
> > roll the other uses with some backward compatibility language.  Personally I
> > like the latter approach.  We shouldn’t hold up deprecation across the web
> > due to the other uses, but we should encourage those other uses to move
> > off of subject.
> > >
> > > If Rich and others are ok with that, I’m all for adoption.
> >
> > Certificates are barely checked in SMTP at all (opportunistic and at that), 
> > but
> > to the extent that they are, I am not aware of anyone who's got meaningful
> > certificates that only have a matching CN and no matching SAN.
> >
> > It is fine to deprecate the requirement to support CNs in the absence of a
> > DNS-ID SAN also for SMTP (not just Web).  Long overdue.
> >
> > --
> >     Viktor.
> >
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