OK with me, too. On 19 February 2015 at 06:21, Leif Johansson <le...@sunet.se> wrote:
> > > > > > 18 feb 2015 kl. 20:15 skrev Pete Resnick <presn...@qti.qualcomm.com>: > > > > On 2/18/15 1:08 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > >>> 18 feb 2015 kl. 19:54 skrev Pete Resnick<presn...@qti.qualcomm.com>: > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 2/18/15 5:07 AM, Leif Johansson wrote: > >>>> The idea of making best practice sorta-kinda normative makes me a bit > >>>> queasy. > >>>> > >>> Let's not forget that a BCP *is* a community consensus document. It > means that the IETF community has decided that we do things a particular > way. A BCP *is* normative. > >>> > >>> I think it's quite reasonable for the document to say, "MUST NOT > negotiate SSLv2" because doing otherwise causes harm to implementations and > to the net in general. There are no Internet police. If you violate that > MUST NOT, you don't go to jail. We're simply saying that they way to do > security properly on the Internet is that you MUST NOT use SSLv2. > >>> > >>> So I don't have a problem with the document saying, "Existing > protocols have tradeoffs to make between interoperability and security, so > we (the IETF) expect those tradeoffs to be made. New protocols we (the > IETF) expect to abide by the requirements and recommendations in this > document unless they give some serious justification for not doing so." > That's what we mean by a BCP. > >>> > >> hmm yeah sure > >> > > > > "During a lecture the Oxford linguistic philosopher J. L. Austin made > the claim that although a double negative in English implies a positive > meaning, there is no language in which a double positive implies a > negative. To which [philosopher Sidney] Morgenbesser responded in a > dismissive tone, 'Yeah, right.'" > > > > pr > > hillarious :-) > > I meant to express support unhindered by enthusiasm > > > > > -- > > Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/> > > Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478 > > > >
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