On 04/13/2021 12:21 AM, 王璀 WANG Cui wrote:
I am not expert in this, do you mean if sample in real format, we must
double the sample rate, to contain both I phase and Q phase information?
In my application, I just sample at baseband digital code rate
(Nyquist Freq), and seems it works well when transmit. And when I
convert it into I/Q, it just doubled the size, but seems doesn’t bring
more benefit?
Is there good article can help me to clarify this concept? :)
Well, this is drifting into much-more-generic territory about signals
and signal processing.
Indeed, the Nyquist sampling theorem states that a signal with bandwidth
B must be sampled at 2B in order to properly contain
all the information in a signal.
That can either be achieved by real-mode sampling at 2B, or
complex-baseband sampling at B. You can see that for the
same sample-size, the amount of space occupied by such samples is
identical.
I think we need to understand exactly what you have sampled, and how,
and at what rate. I think *you* need to understand
that in more depth as well, before we can provide much meaningful help.
*From:*Marcus D Leech <patchvonbr...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2021 12:08 PM
*To:* 王璀WANG Cui <iucg...@msn.com>
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*Subject:* Re: [USRP-users] How to tx s16 file with tx_samples_from_file
No. A real-sampled signal would
Need to be sampled at twice the notional bandwidth. So the data rate
is the same.
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On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:59 PM, 王璀 WANG Cui <iucg...@msn.com
<mailto:iucg...@msn.com>> wrote:
That make sense, I guess I would modify it to accept more format.
However, for the hardware side, it accept only Complex OTW format,
which means it need double bandwidth from host (I am using B210,
USB3). When transmit high sample rate signal, it is very easy to
underflow. If we can upgrade firmware to handle format conversion
on hardware level, it will ease a lot on host computing resource
and USB/NIC bandwidth and performance.
Thanks!
*From:*Marcus D Leech <patchvonbr...@gmail.com
<mailto:patchvonbr...@gmail.com>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2021 11:45 AM
*To:* 王璀WANG Cui <iucg...@msn.com <mailto:iucg...@msn.com>>
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*Subject:* Re: [USRP-users] How to tx s16 file with
tx_samples_from_file
The tx_samples_from_file application is just an example
application. You are free to modify it to meet your needs,
including converting real-samples data to complex baseband data
The hardware, however, supports complex baseband data, In either
sc16 or sc8 format “over the wire”. The host software (whether
that’s the tx_samples_from_file example code or your own) is free
to accept and convert files into the baseband format accepted by
the radio hardware.
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On Apr 12, 2021, at 10:08 PM, 王璀 WANG Cui <iucg...@msn.com
<mailto:iucg...@msn.com>> wrote:
Thanks for reply.
However for RF signal, IQ Complex signal double the file size,
which is quite inconvenient, it will be best that USRP can
natively support such format. (Even sometimes RF signal is in
4-bit, 1 bit format, and convert to I/Q will be more than 10
times larger...)
*From:*Marcus D Leech <patchvonbr...@gmail.com
<mailto:patchvonbr...@gmail.com>>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 13, 2021 09:44 AM
*To:* ?? WANG Cui <iucg...@msn.com <mailto:iucg...@msn.com>>
*Cc:* USRP-users@lists.ettus.com
<mailto:USRP-users@lists.ettus.com>
*Subject:* Re: [USRP-users] How to tx s16 file with
tx_samples_from_file
Complex baseband is the natural format for this stuff. If you
have real-sampled data you’ll have to convert it into complex
baseband first.
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On Apr 12, 2021, at 9:32 PM, ?? WANG Cui <iucg...@msn.com
<mailto:iucg...@msn.com>> wrote:
Hi,
When I try tx_samples_from_file example, looks like it
only take Complex data format.
However I have signal file in RF direct sample format
(each data element represent a sample value), say it is
“s8” or “s16” format as defined in UHD term.
I wonder how can I transmit such file? Or must I convert
it into Interleaved I/Q (Complex) format?
Thanks in advance,
iucganw
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