On 03/18/2019 01:26 PM, Damon wrote:
Hi Marcus,

Sorry, I can't reproduce the first observation in this discussion thread. A new problem about phase response has arisen. I am testing the phase coherence performance of four receiving channels of N310. A B200 is transmitting single tone continuous wave to a one to four splitter. The 4 outputs of the splitter are connected to 4 RX channels of N310. Attached please find the GRC file of this test.

The RX frequency of 4 channels of N310 is set to 460MHz, and keep running in the test.

The TX frequency of B200 is set to 460.02MHz first, and then to 460.03MHz. I thought the phase difference between different dboards would change very little when the signal frequency difference is very small, similar to the performance of X310. However, the fact is that the phase difference between the two dboards of N310 varies considerably with the signal frequency transmission. For example, in the attached picture, when the signal frequency is 460.01MHz, the phase difference between channel 2 and channel 0 is -118 degrees, the phase difference between channel 1 and channel 0 is 0 degrees; when the transmission frequency is adjusted to 460.03MHz, the phase difference between channel 2 and channel 0 is 117 degrees, and the phase difference between channel 1 and channel 0 is 0 degrees. It is very difficult to understand that the phase difference of two receiving channels of two different dboards has changed by 235 degrees with the signal frequency change of 20 KHz. The phase difference of two receiving channels of the same dboard is basically unchanged.

Best regards,

Damon

Since the LO on the daughterboards has no idea that you've changed input frequency, this is clearly a measurement thing, and it's up to you
  to understand what you're measuring, and why.




On 2019/3/16 上午7:47, Marcus D. Leech wrote:
On 03/14/2019 04:37 PM, Damon wrote:
Hi Marcus,

The UHD Version is v3.14.0.0-rc1.

Best regards,

Damon

I don't see this issue at all, using v3.14.0.0-rc3

How are you measuring phase, what does you flow-graph look like? Have you increased the gain enough to assure that the inherent system
  noise is not dominating your phase measurements?


Hi Ali,

The daughterboards have their own clock generators, but they are not
exactly 'independent'. At least they don't have to be, as they share the
same reference clock. Look at the block diagram:

https://kb.ettus.com/images/9/9d/USRP_N310_N300_DB_Schematic.pdf

and "Ref Clock" block. I don't have N310 and I know that reality can be a bit far from expectations (i.e. look at my "What makes sense and what doesn't in the way carrier frequency is set for TwinRX currently?" post).

But maybe the daughterboards can be configured to use that reference clock.


Best Regards,
Piotr Krysik
The LMK clock generator uses the reference clock from the mainboard, so there should not be any mutual phase-jitter/drift issues. I can test this
    on my N310 in the coming day or two.

What version of UHD is in use?





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