Marcus,

Thanks for the advice on the filter pairs.  This would seem to be a quick and 
cheap way to solve this issue.  Unfortunately, this is a bit above my 
understanding.  I forgot to mention I am a software guy…which will probably 
explain a lot to you regarding my question…lol.  I will pass this on to my EE 
work colleague.  She will understand this much better than I.

Cheers,
Ken

> On Sep 5, 2017, at 6:33 PM, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users 
> <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote:
> 
> On 09/05/2017 05:07 PM, Humphries, James R. via USRP-users wrote:
>> And I guess the other question would be if there is a circulator that you 
>> can buy at that low of frequency. I'm not sure that I have seen one, but 
>> never actually looked.
>> 
>> -Trip
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: USRP-users [mailto:usrp-users-boun...@lists.ettus.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Humphries, James R. via USRP-users
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 5:00 PM
>> To: Ken M Erney <gsmmobile...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
>> Subject: Re: [USRP-users] 50 Ohm terminator on LFTX board
>> 
>> Hey Ken,
>> 
>> Are you thinking of something like a circulator?
>> 
>> https://www.microwaves101.com/encyclopedias/circulators
>> 
>> -Trip
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: USRP-users [mailto:usrp-users-boun...@lists.ettus.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Ken M Erney via USRP-users
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 4:47 PM
>> To: usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
>> Subject: Re: [USRP-users] 50 Ohm terminator on LFTX board
>> 
>> Here is another question for the RF folks out there.  I have a device that 
>> is sending a signal over a coax cable at about 8 MHz while receiving a 
>> signal over the same cable at around 3 MHz (both HF).  I have an N210 with 
>> both LFRX and LFTX boards installed.  Attached to the coax is a filter and 
>> DC block.  The filter blocks 0 to 1.7 MHz and passes 1.8 to 54 MHz.
>> 
>> What I wanted to do is take the output from the filter, split it, and send 
>> one feed to the LFRX and one feed to the LFTX.  I am then going to use 
>> gnu-radio to send (at 3 MHz) and receive (at 8 MHz).  My initial thought was 
>> to use a splitter but this setup would basically create a loop-back between 
>> the TX and RX boards on the N210.  I next thought of a duplexer, but I could 
>> not find anything that would split out 3 and 8 Mhz.
>> 
>> My question is… is this even possible?  If it is, what do I need to put 
>> between the TX and RX side of the N210 to prevent the TX signal going 
>> directly into the RX port?
>> 
>> The setup looks something like this:
>> 
>> 
>>           |—— (LFRX) ———(8 Mhz)———|
>> N210 |                                                       |——(y-cable)——| 
>> (filter/block) |——— (signal coax 50 ohm)
>>           |—— (LFTX) ———(3 Mhz)———|
>> 
>> 
>> In this diagram, what would I used on the RX and TX ports on the N210 to 
>> prevent the loop-back condition?  The frequencies (i.e. 8 and 3) are not 
>> exact, so I can’t really use a hardware filter (I assume).  I could use a 
>> software filter in gnu-radio, but I was not sure about what might happen in 
>> this scenario (i.e. loopback).  One possible idea is to put an attenuator 
>> just before the LFRX board like the one supplied in the N210 loopback kit 
>> (i.e. 30db, 0-6Ghz) but I assume this would reduce the power of the receive 
>> signal as well.  Noob here, so my apologies if these are simple questions.  
>> I could not find much via google on this.
>> 
>> Thanks
> Ideally, you want a duplexor.
> 
> But you may be able to get away with a pair of filters--one for your TX 
> frequency and the other for RX.
> 
> Stick a deep NOTCH for your TX frequency into the RX path, and then a 
> bandpass for your RX frequency into the RX path.
> 
> Stick a stiff bandpass for your TX frequency into the TX path, and then a 
> stiff *NOTCH* for your TX frequency into the TX path.
> 
> At these frequencies, ordinary L-C filters work quite well, and "off the 
> shelf" SMD inductors/Cs can be used at low power levels (below +20dBm or so).
> 
> Check out:
> 
> http://www.wa4dsy.net/filter/filterdesign.html
> 
> 
> 
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