> -----Original Message-----
> From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:44 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: apache-tomcat-6.0.29 will not start with more then 1024mb
> memory assigned - windows
> 
> > From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
> > Subject: RE: apache-tomcat-6.0.29 will not start with more then
> 1024mb memory assigned - windows
> 
> > I'm pretty sure that PermGen is not part of Heap.
> 
> I wasn't saying that PermGen was part of the regular heap; all I
stated
> was that the regular heap (NewGen, OldGen) *and* PermGen are allocated
> in a contiguous chunk of process space.  Just saying "heap" is a bit
> ambiguous, because in some contexts the term includes PermGen, whereas
> for the -Xmx and-Xms settings, it does not.

Sorry, I thought you were lumping it in there.  Didn't mean to
mis-understand.  

It is probably better termed that the JVM will allocate all required
memory in a contiguous block at startup and that includes memory for the
JVM itself as well as settings for Heap and Non-Heap memory.
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