I was a PL-I expert. That's why I know it's spelled PL-I  (roman numerals not 
arabic. I always thought this was funny)

On Sep 24, 2010, at 9:49 PM, michel wrote:

> Don't know about you, but I was left really, really worried about actually 
> being on a project under those conditions.
> 
> 
> Lots of room for doing a crash-and-burn ...
> 
> 
> Back when I started in the business in 1982 I had to learn PL-1, the best 
> darned language that never managed  to get a good market share. It was said 
> that it took four years to really learn how to use it. These days all you 
> need is a crash course to be an expert!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian" <bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com>
> To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:42 PM
> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant
> 
> 
> That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they sent me
> to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions of
> Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts. Then
> they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for my time.
> I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant.
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: michel [mailto:compu...@videotron.ca]
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM
>> To: Tomcat Users List
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
>> 
>> I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't  a big 5, but had some
>> pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had me in
>> Denver  on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I could
>> become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on different
>> projects.
>> 
>> Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some contacts, and
>> then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got canned
>> ...
>> 
>> I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this nonsense.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Martin Gainty" <mgai...@hotmail.com>
>> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM
>> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a lamberghini in a
>> 1000 brooks brothers suit
>> 
>> add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg
>> 
>> BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a hindi
>> translator for spanish
>> 
>> how about unisys???
>> 
>> Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU
>> Martin Gainty
>> ______________________________________________
>> No altere ni interrumpa por favor esta transmisión. Gracias
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400
>> > Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
>> > From: cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com
>> > To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> >
>> > I should have copyrights on my name. LOL
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian <bbprefix-m...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnolog...@gmail.com]
>> > >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
>> > >> To: Tomcat Users List
>> > >> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
>> > >>
>> > >> Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Esto si que sonó gracioso.
>> > > Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios, uno de los
>> > > cuales
>> > > se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a Tomcat guy.
>> > >> But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay one of
>> the
>> > >> Big-5.
>> > >>
>> > >> Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container while
>> > >> Websphere is an application server.
>> > >> Therefore, depending on your application you may not be able to
>> migrate
>> > >> it
>> > >> to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an application
>> > > server.
>> > >>
>> > >> -Jorge
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz
>> > >> <ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
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>> > >> >
>> > >> > On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
>> > >> >> My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching over a
> J2EE
>> > >> >> web app over from Web Sphere application server to Tomcat and we
>> are
>> > >> >> looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production instance of
>> > >> >> tomcat.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need anyone to
> set
>> > >> > it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean "trusted"?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Does anyone have any recommendations for a top notch consulting
>> firm
>> > >> >> that could provide these services?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies would be very
>> > >> > happy to take way more money than is necessary to set up an
> instance
>> > >> > of Tomcat for you.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > - -chris
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