On Monday, September 16, 2013, Christopher Schultz wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Mark, > > On 9/16/13 5:09 AM, Mark Thomas wrote: > > The only requirement on ordering is at the end of section 8.2 > > which requires that application SCIs are discovered before > > container SCIs. That is the opposite to what is being requested > > here. > > > > The issue needs to be raised with the EG. I'd suggest you create a > > JIRA. > > While raising the issue with the EG might be appropriate, there's no > mandate from the EG that WebSocket services be initialized from an > SCI. I see this as a Tomcat problem, not a spec problem.
I'm willing to take a look at the issue in the next few days and propose smth for review. Niki > > I believe it's reasonable for webapp code to expect a sane environment > during initialization. In this case, an architectural decision at the > container-implementation level (to use an SCI to get WebSocket going) > has collided with a reasonable expectation of a webapp implementer. I > don't believe the solution is to have the EG rule on this... the > solution is to make Tomcat meet expectations. > > If that means changing from using an SCI to some other mechanism, > obviously the EG's opinion is moot. If you want to get the EG's ruling > and then work within that construct to get Tomcat's WebSocket SCI > working nicely in the above scenario, that's fine. But you shouldn't > use an unfavorable (or useless) ruling by the EG as cover for not > supporting this use case. > > - -chris > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (Darwin) > Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSNxPsAAoJEBzwKT+lPKRY99UP/Rt2D/c9NYATnRcvDEmE7Zu9 > ey1cyJ8vdcfqb3xKZKEG/N1EPwxRds8NmkuP/B4Z1uAtrV6g84DIyuBfKVg+/IZm > fyzLZG55A8GPNfiuoe5ajT4TqmhI8ngg3oYfYy42RCd8sUPWI/T3CXNAA07khLS4 > E5o5bbZ+JAV4RptyLGJsdZDceijrxPKWl3KmKKTByn7hGTmcCHSlGbYmdPXJ5oMr > QX3phw7Qb42u+smpPZ1XcE2pfYy8lhJE/LlbxgWWHIaK+fSod2O9cy1U0Ls1V4kG > MIA0Vlglr5+FXPwJfW9BzNZ5pDsqAN80ip4Sk91MWiHcPscWdXRIvZS8Yjv3KVi6 > r88q1F/FONClI7CxLnE0GcTjP8ZHOqVZzCxJF9CHP1pRjhEtsUEYBNe5MqXkDwE+ > rDrlfwPnIAMUOdz6DeFX1es/p+k6adDaKIj+vzHtcWyeOekp1zjHFIyoO+ClmmiR > mv/VI4RXIn9PuUzaUruGojiJ+gzk4UCupoJ4EamiNBKXko9P5PBXFmszBJY7LlZY > GpWcudMTdyDE/E8ht1zWSnaSvIusbkQR+5WVTXONAOT+a2oGwqKJ8MCbb3opykG8 > Vu6CAKisz67Qb9LhM2Jj6Xa6dtfXBBjlxDfJbadWcORst2hX4Jx0kag0czHyROHz > VyMgKgN3NwCuoRTgKcah > =z09t > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org <javascript:;> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tomcat.apache.org<javascript:;> > >
