It's not always as simple as that.

First, there is licensing; I can't just take a library; it has to be
properly granted to the ASF.

Second, I'm hesitant to take on code "from the wild"; ultimately, the
T5 committers (primarily myself) end up taking on the responsibility
for the code; t5conduit does not even include tests.

Further, more changes are likely needed as I've been changing some
APIs so that (specifically) it is possible to determine what
extensions map to JavaScript. So the code as is may not compile
against 5.4 since one key interface needed a new method.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Lenny Primak <lpri...@aceinnovative.com> wrote:
> Please consider t5conduit for inclusion into Tapestry.
> It already supports CoffeeScript and LessCSS
> No need to reinvent the wheel here.
>
> On Nov 1, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The conversion from CoffeeScript to JavaScript occurs on the server.
>>
>> The generated JavaScript is quite straight-forward for most cases.
>>
>> CoffeeScript is more concise than JavaScript; it includes a couple of
>> higher-order features, such as really smart loops, and smarter
>> handling of function parameters; providing defaults, and handling
>> extra arguments nicely.
>>
>> The -> and => syntax for defining functions is close to ideal for the
>> web, where you constantly introduce new functions.
>>
>> Each module is automatically packaged up inside a hygienic function.
>> All variables are declared before being used.  CoffeeScript supports
>> variable interpolation inside strings.
>>
>> However, if you want to replace a module (by contributing an override
>> to the ModuleManager service), you can write that module is JavaScript
>> or CoffeeScript.
>>
>> In fact, I haven't actually added support for CoffeeScript to the
>> project; that will be a suggested add-on module that hasn't been
>> written. Currently, the build is responsible for compiling
>> CoffeeScript into JavaScript; what's getting packaged inside
>> tapestry-core.jar is JavaScript.
>>
>> In the future, there will be a module that will detect the ".coffee"
>> file extension, and convert that to JavaScript as needed, at runtime.
>>
>> Ive used CoffeeScript extensively over the last six months; I like it,
>> I like how my code looks, I think the code is easier to follow and
>> mantain.  Brendan Eich thinks so too ... he's adapting idea from
>> CoffeeScript (and from Python, and elsewhere) into the next-generation
>> version of JavaScript.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
>> <thiag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:02:21 -0200, Paul Stanton <p...@mapshed.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok, our usage of the term 'monkey-patch' is where the misunderstanding is.
>>>> I mean, patch. not monkey-patch, in your definition.
>>>
>>>
>>> That's why I always told my students: use the right words, the right names,
>>> the right terminologies all the times, because otherwise people won't
>>> understand you. :)
>>>
>>> Monkey-patching in JavaScript and other dynamic-typed languages has a very
>>> specific definition: changing some function by overriding it through code in
>>> runtime. The source code is *not* changed. Patching, in the source code
>>> sense, is something completely different, because it doesn't occur in
>>> runtime, being done on the source itself. What you're doing is patching, but
>>> not monkey-patching at all.
>>>
>>> According to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_patch:
>>>
>>> A monkey patch is a way to extend or modify the run-time code of dynamic
>>> languages without altering the original source code. This process has also
>>> been termed duck punching.[1]
>>>
>>> Regarding the gains of using CoffeeScript: I've never used it, so I cannot
>>> answer that.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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