You are right bob. Keep It Simple and Smart.

2012/10/17 Bob Harner <bobhar...@gmail.com>:
> It seems to be an increasingly common view in the last couple of years
> is that portals/portlets are an outdated view technology, with the
> better, more modern approach being client-side logic with Ajax. I, for
> one, am glad to have left the portal world behind.
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Lenny Primak <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us> wrote:
>> Thank you François,  this sums it up really well for me.
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2012, at 5:37 AM, François Facon <francois.fa...@atos.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Lenny,
>>>
>>> Everytime someone from Atos ask me this question,
>>> I answer "yes for liferay".
>>> As we have already numbers of portlet deploy in this portlet
>>> container, we haven't see any limitation from now.
>>>
>>> For other portlet container, I am pretty sure this bridge will work
>>> fine as long as the portlet container implements MARKUP_HEADER. This
>>> will avoid adding any js twice for any portal page that use more than
>>> one portlet instance.
>>>
>>> Regarding your needs.
>>> Portlet Containers have the following avantages:
>>> + content aggregation (you will be able to mix content that come any
>>> web framework )
>>> + use features provided by the container (cms, workflow, user management 
>>> etc..)
>>> + personnalization made easy by drag and drop
>>>
>>> and the following disavantage
>>> - in order to work inside a portlet container you need the bridge have
>>> to generate dirty url. so url rewriting have to be manage by portal.
>>> - cache, user management, has also to be managed by the portal
>>> - portal introduce overhead 20% mem and cpu
>>> - you will need trainning  in order to well manage your portal and you
>>> will have to train your users to avoid disaster.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/10/17 Lenny Primak <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us>:
>>>> François,
>>>> Do you think that got5-portlet is ready to use in production?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:12 PM, François Facon <francois.fa...@atos.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Markus,
>>>>>
>>>>> Your experience in developping portlet with tapestry is very interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, we return  PortletRenderable object and PortalPage object
>>>>> to display another tapestry page in the current portlet or to request
>>>>> the portlet container to redirect the user to another page of the
>>>>> portlet container. did you try to use those object during an
>>>>> activation phase whithout success?
>>>>>
>>>>> About returning stream response during activation,  I can't see the
>>>>> related usage.
>>>>> could you give more details about that point?
>>>>>
>>>>> Freundlich grüßt
>>>>> François
>>>>>
>>>>> 2012/10/16 Markus Feindler <markus.feind...@gmx.de>:
>>>>>> Hm, it's hard to say since there are some basic features which don't
>>>>>> function in the "bridge" (like returning a page or stream response in
>>>>>> onactivate).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend using it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>>>>> Datum: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:09:59 -0400
>>>>>>> Von: Lenny Primak <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us>
>>>>>>> An: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Tapestry-Portlet status?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           Thanks, I know it exists, but not sure it's ready for
>>>>>>> production use,
>>>>>>> hence the question if T5-portlet is something I should be using in
>>>>>>> production
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Lenny Primak wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I heard something about Tapestry supporting the Portlet spec.
>>>>>>>> Is Tapestry going to support it out of the box or is Tapestry-Portlet
>>>>>>> ready to use in production?
>>>>>>>
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