It seems to be an increasingly common view in the last couple of years
is that portals/portlets are an outdated view technology, with the
better, more modern approach being client-side logic with Ajax. I, for
one, am glad to have left the portal world behind.

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Lenny Primak <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us> wrote:
> Thank you François,  this sums it up really well for me.
>
> On Oct 17, 2012, at 5:37 AM, François Facon <francois.fa...@atos.net> wrote:
>
>> Lenny,
>>
>> Everytime someone from Atos ask me this question,
>> I answer "yes for liferay".
>> As we have already numbers of portlet deploy in this portlet
>> container, we haven't see any limitation from now.
>>
>> For other portlet container, I am pretty sure this bridge will work
>> fine as long as the portlet container implements MARKUP_HEADER. This
>> will avoid adding any js twice for any portal page that use more than
>> one portlet instance.
>>
>> Regarding your needs.
>> Portlet Containers have the following avantages:
>> + content aggregation (you will be able to mix content that come any
>> web framework )
>> + use features provided by the container (cms, workflow, user management 
>> etc..)
>> + personnalization made easy by drag and drop
>>
>> and the following disavantage
>> - in order to work inside a portlet container you need the bridge have
>> to generate dirty url. so url rewriting have to be manage by portal.
>> - cache, user management, has also to be managed by the portal
>> - portal introduce overhead 20% mem and cpu
>> - you will need trainning  in order to well manage your portal and you
>> will have to train your users to avoid disaster.
>>
>>
>> 2012/10/17 Lenny Primak <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us>:
>>> François,
>>> Do you think that got5-portlet is ready to use in production?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:12 PM, François Facon <francois.fa...@atos.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Markus,
>>>>
>>>> Your experience in developping portlet with tapestry is very interesting.
>>>>
>>>> Currently, we return  PortletRenderable object and PortalPage object
>>>> to display another tapestry page in the current portlet or to request
>>>> the portlet container to redirect the user to another page of the
>>>> portlet container. did you try to use those object during an
>>>> activation phase whithout success?
>>>>
>>>> About returning stream response during activation,  I can't see the
>>>> related usage.
>>>> could you give more details about that point?
>>>>
>>>> Freundlich grüßt
>>>> François
>>>>
>>>> 2012/10/16 Markus Feindler <markus.feind...@gmx.de>:
>>>>> Hm, it's hard to say since there are some basic features which don't
>>>>> function in the "bridge" (like returning a page or stream response in
>>>>> onactivate).
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't recommend using it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>>>>> Datum: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:09:59 -0400
>>>>>> Von: Lenny Primak <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us>
>>>>>> An: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
>>>>>> Betreff: Re: Tapestry-Portlet status?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           Thanks, I know it exists, but not sure it's ready for
>>>>>> production use,
>>>>>> hence the question if T5-portlet is something I should be using in
>>>>>> production
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 16, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Lenny Primak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I heard something about Tapestry supporting the Portlet spec.
>>>>>>> Is Tapestry going to support it out of the box or is Tapestry-Portlet
>>>>>> ready to use in production?
>>>>>>
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