Исходное сообщение Thank you very much for your replies! I'm not the guy who is going to abandon Java boat and Tapestry ) one of my concern was that Manning pub has claimed that Play book being MEAP version is the best seller of the month. Whereas we all remember what they did with Igor Drobiazko's MEAP Tapestry 5 book, who don't remember they claimed it as potentially poor salling book and therefore shutted it down. Maybe it's just stupid marketeers! I did a couple of projects with Tapestry and had felt the power of it. Also I had bought the Igor's book MEAP version from manning pub and was very upset when it was cancelled. Nevertheless reading just 4 chapters plus great online docs was enough for me to build my web app with Tapestry ) So I just can't wait for Igor's book release)
Thank you again friends, it is really interesting to read others opinion Vladimir Bauer Отправлено из Samsung Mobile "Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo" <thiag...@gmail.com> написал: On Fri, 04 May 2012 14:11:51 -0300, Jon Williams <williams.jonat...@gmail.com> wrote: > EE Java has always included some crap, always will. It's evolving > constantly for sure. (...) > Conclusion: Java EE is never going away, it's just gonna get better, even > more of the stupid excess fat will be refactored or totally abandoned. > Servlets for sure are never getting dumped because they just flat out > work for anything, and they are evolving right along with the rest of > the EE. 1000% agreed. Even just reading about them, not really using them, you can see how EJB 3 is way easier and simpler to use than EJB 2. I think we can take Spring for that, even if just partially. > I know people who 2 months ago finished building a very cool enterprise > application with Play, so it works. They are not stupid, One of them > invented the original Facebook at Stanford years and years before Zuk got > in to Harvard. The only difference was that at Stanford, the Dean decided > that was an intrusion of privacy and said no that's illegal here and shut > them down. And they know all about Tapestry (up to the final refined 4 > version) have used it to build rock solid fancy enterprise apps. But they > decided to use Play. So clearly in my eyes, Play has some merits. Yep. I've just read a little bit about Play and it does seem to have some bright ideas. > I would say this book that you are reading is fully biased. Most > Technical books are in some way biased. I'm certain there is or shortly > will be half a dozen other books that aren't as biased. Maybe some day > I'll consider > reading one of those. I couldn't have said it better myself. :) The author is trying to sell Play to the public. And we here in the Tapestry mailing list try to sell Tapestry public. :) > Don't get sucked into using something just cus it's new and does a few > clever things. I'd like to contribute one example: Twitter was written in Ruby, which has been the latest main target of hype in programming languages, and later rewritten in Java with a 3x performance improvement: http://engineering.twitter.com/2011/04/twitter-search-is-now-3x-faster_1656.html. > Transmission Ending. Pausing Rant Nuerons til later. Hehehe :P -- Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer, and instructor Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda. http://www.arsmachina.com.br --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
