On Fri, 04 May 2012 14:11:51 -0300, Jon Williams
<williams.jonat...@gmail.com> wrote:
EE Java has always included some crap, always will. It's evolving
constantly for sure.
(...)
Conclusion: Java EE is never going away, it's just gonna get better, even
more of the stupid excess fat will be refactored or totally abandoned.
Servlets for sure are never getting dumped because they just flat out
work for anything, and they are evolving right along with the rest of
the EE.
1000% agreed. Even just reading about them, not really using them, you can
see how EJB 3 is way easier and simpler to use than EJB 2. I think we can
take Spring for that, even if just partially.
I know people who 2 months ago finished building a very cool enterprise
application with Play, so it works. They are not stupid, One of them
invented the original Facebook at Stanford years and years before Zuk got
in to Harvard. The only difference was that at Stanford, the Dean decided
that was an intrusion of privacy and said no that's illegal here and shut
them down. And they know all about Tapestry (up to the final refined 4
version) have used it to build rock solid fancy enterprise apps. But they
decided to use Play. So clearly in my eyes, Play has some merits.
Yep. I've just read a little bit about Play and it does seem to have some
bright ideas.
I would say this book that you are reading is fully biased. Most
Technical books are in some way biased. I'm certain there is or shortly
will be half a dozen other books that aren't as biased. Maybe some day
I'll consider
reading one of those.
I couldn't have said it better myself. :) The author is trying to sell
Play to the public. And we here in the Tapestry mailing list try to sell
Tapestry public. :)
Don't get sucked into using something just cus it's new and does a few
clever things.
I'd like to contribute one example: Twitter was written in Ruby, which has
been the latest main target of hype in programming languages, and later
rewritten in Java with a 3x performance improvement:
http://engineering.twitter.com/2011/04/twitter-search-is-now-3x-faster_1656.html.
Transmission Ending. Pausing Rant Nuerons til later.
Hehehe :P
--
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Independent Java, Apache Tapestry 5 and Hibernate consultant, developer,
and instructor
Owner, Ars Machina Tecnologia da Informação Ltda.
http://www.arsmachina.com.br
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