Nope,  it works for me.

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Ivano Luberti <lube...@archicoop.it>wrote:

> Oh yes! I can remember about that: but the link is not working, the web
> site seems down
>
> Il 24/11/2010 10.27, Igor Drobiazko ha scritto:
> > Maybe this presentation will be interesting for the jsf developer.
> >
> >
> http://blog.tapestry5.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/JSF-2.0-vs-Tapestry-5.pdf
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Ivano Luberti <lube...@archicoop.it
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I forward to the list what a jsf developer has written to me: I'm
> >> working with him on a project where he has to develop the web
> >> application and I'm working on a web service consumed by his web
> >> application.
> >>
> >> I had forwarded to him a message by Thiago that was trying to point out
> >> differences between T5 and JSF.
> >> The interesting thing he has to say is about facelets as a way to use
> >> standard XHTML templates inside JSF.
> >> Also the difficulty to use together different component sets is
> >> interesting: reminds me of the issue with different JavaScript
> >> components in T5.
> >>
> >> But what really surprises me is the similarity he found between struts
> >> and JSF
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Messaggio originale --------
> >>
> >> Hi Ivano,
> >>
> >> We do indeed use JSF for our web development and more specifically we
> >> use Icefaces which is a set of AJAX enabled components and AJAX push
> >> framework which sits on top of JSF. We chose to use JSF because it
> >> wasn't too dissimilar from Struts which we were using before. Generally
> >> we find it very good although it does have some shortcomings but they
> >> don't tend to get in the way too much. We are using JSF 1.2 but JSF 2.0
> >> is now available and adds support for some of the things on your list
> >> such as, you can now use annotations for lots of things you use to have
> >> to use XML for, there is also the addition of page level scope as per
> >> the tapestry idea. One point the tapestry guy is wrong about though is
> >> that with JSF you don't have to use JSP, that is only one option. We use
> >> facelets which is now part of the JSF 2.0 spec so if you use that you
> >> code directly in XHTML using the relevant faces tags, thus the problems
> >> that came from using JSP as a display layer disappear.
> >>
> >> With JSF you get a choice of which component set you want to use, or I
> >> believe you can use multiple but then configuration becomes more
> >> challenging. We looked at a number including Richfaces and Woodstock and
> >> decided that Icefaces offered the best set of components. All three of
> >> those are open source though so are completely free to use, although
> >> support is available too.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately I don't know a great deal about tapestry so I can't really
> >> say how it compares to JSF, I think you'd have to evaluate them both and
> >> decide which one is easier for you to work with based on your previous
> >> experience.
> >>
> >> Hope that helps,
> >> Darren
> >>
> >>
> >>
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