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Il 24/11/2010 10.27, Igor Drobiazko ha scritto:
> Maybe this presentation will be interesting for the jsf developer.
>
> http://blog.tapestry5.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/JSF-2.0-vs-Tapestry-5.pdf
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Ivano Luberti <lube...@archicoop.it>wrote:
>
>> I forward to the list what a jsf developer has written to me: I'm
>> working with him on a project where he has to develop the web
>> application and I'm working on a web service consumed by his web
>> application.
>>
>> I had forwarded to him a message by Thiago that was trying to point out
>> differences between T5 and JSF.
>> The interesting thing he has to say is about facelets as a way to use
>> standard XHTML templates inside JSF.
>> Also the difficulty to use together different component sets is
>> interesting: reminds me of the issue with different JavaScript
>> components in T5.
>>
>> But what really surprises me is the similarity he found between struts
>> and JSF
>>
>>
>> -------- Messaggio originale --------
>>
>> Hi Ivano,
>>
>> We do indeed use JSF for our web development and more specifically we
>> use Icefaces which is a set of AJAX enabled components and AJAX push
>> framework which sits on top of JSF. We chose to use JSF because it
>> wasn't too dissimilar from Struts which we were using before. Generally
>> we find it very good although it does have some shortcomings but they
>> don't tend to get in the way too much. We are using JSF 1.2 but JSF 2.0
>> is now available and adds support for some of the things on your list
>> such as, you can now use annotations for lots of things you use to have
>> to use XML for, there is also the addition of page level scope as per
>> the tapestry idea. One point the tapestry guy is wrong about though is
>> that with JSF you don't have to use JSP, that is only one option. We use
>> facelets which is now part of the JSF 2.0 spec so if you use that you
>> code directly in XHTML using the relevant faces tags, thus the problems
>> that came from using JSP as a display layer disappear.
>>
>> With JSF you get a choice of which component set you want to use, or I
>> believe you can use multiple but then configuration becomes more
>> challenging. We looked at a number including Richfaces and Woodstock and
>> decided that Icefaces offered the best set of components. All three of
>> those are open source though so are completely free to use, although
>> support is available too.
>>
>> Unfortunately I don't know a great deal about tapestry so I can't really
>> say how it compares to JSF, I think you'd have to evaluate them both and
>> decide which one is easier for you to work with based on your previous
>> experience.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Darren
>>
>>
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