Hi 

I think that if put in the right 'shape' and on volunteer basis it can work 
pretty well. Maybe a filter is bit intrusive ... But eclipse for example does 
the same, still people use it. In a similar way all the softwares (especially 
when they fail) have a way to call home.

Something like a donate button, where you give some aggregated infos about how 
you use tapestry and not what you use it for. 

On 11-ott-2010, at 18:57, Daniel Jue <teamp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think this is a good idea.  I understand that it would satisfy
> a lot of curiosity.

I do not think this is just about curiosity; this is about (real) numbers 
on the actual impact of tapestry, its geographical distribution, and in a more 
general way also improvement (not just bug fixes)

> There would have to be value-add for the end user, such as
> checking for a newer version, etc.
In fact there will. 
More visibility means more people involved, more people involved means more 
interest, effort and investments. Thus if you already are a kind of tapestry 
guru then your market value will increase.
Then more data means more focused analyses and tests, and in the end a  better 
framework.
> 
> Is there precedent for this in other Apache projects?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This came up during my training class this week.
>> 
>> What would be the repercussions if Tapestry included a start-up filter
>> that "reported" the application startup back to some central location,
>> so that we could get some idea of where and how Tapestry is being
>> used?  Obviously, this would be documented, in such a way that it
>> would be easy to turn off for the privacy-minded.
>> 
>> It would be interesting to know how many apps are running in the wild,
>>  and details about how many pages & components & services, JVM
>> version, and OS and hardware configuration.
>> 
>> Asking people to do this manually is a non-starter, I'm constantly
>> surprised by people telling me they are using Tapestry in visible
>> places.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Alessio Gambi <agamb...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: Monitoring/statistics
>> To: Tapestry users <users@tapestry.apache.org>
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Please think also about some way to obtain (meta) statistics about
>> Tapestry itself. Something that can be used to track how many people
>> are actually using tapestry as platform for their applications.
>> 
>> -- Alessio
>> 
>> On 11-ott-2010, at 18:05, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been thinking about this kind of thing as well; having a JMX bean
>>> for each Page instance and tracking number of render requests, number
>>> of event requests, number of ajax even requests, and ellapsed
>>> processing time for each.
>>> 
>>> Obviously, it's a bit late for 5.2 ... it may be time to cut a 5.3 dev
>>> branch off the current 5.2 code base.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Josh Canfield <joshcanfi...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm thinking about rolling my own generic monitoring/statistics solution 
>>>> for
>>>> tapestry 5 and I figured I should see if something is out there already
>>>> before I spent too much time on it.
>>>> 
>>>> This is to be used in production and connected to an external monitoring
>>>> system, probably via JMX, but we might be flexible.
>>>> 
>>>> Anything come to mind?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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