On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Katia Aresti Gonzalez <katiaare...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Yes, that's why we have to say that this backwards compatibility it's not a > problem, loud and and clear. > Other frameworks mains versions are incompatible too. > > I would love to keep up staring up for more than 4 days !! :) > Sadly our project was cancelled ... no project, no formation. > more pub -> more people knows about tapestry 5.x -> more people proposes > the > framework to their clients -> more projects coming -> more knowledge needed > -> more formations, :) > > About localisation : Paris is the best place in France. Paris is very well > connected to the other french capitals by train(tgv) and plane. Connected > to > London in 2 hours by train. > > I've done that stretch between London and Paris, both ways, a couple of times. Couldn't be easier. I've been contacted by members of the Paris JUG and the Austrian JUG recently to talk about T5. However, with a newborn (5 month old) at home, I'm temporarily backing away from extended trips (longer than necessary to teach the workshop). But Europe has a bunch of Tapestry experts/committers only a short train ride away (listening, Igor & Andreas?). > 2010/8/5 Gerald Bauer <gtat...@gmail.com> > > > I think one reason people fear Tapestry is it's backward compatibility > > history. Another reason is the ugliness of Howard. I can't imagine how > > people could keep up staring that ugly man for ours during courses or > > presentation :( > > > > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Katia Aresti Gonzalez < > > katiaare...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Laurent and me live in Paris. We work for a big international french > > > company. > > > > > > We were aware about these formations since last year because we are > > > tapestry > > > followers. > > > Last year, in may 2009, our client wanted to migrate from struts 1.x to > > > tapestry 5.x. > > > We started to learn Tapestry by ourselves. After that, we followed an > > > external formation in June 2009 (Paris), 3 days with a similar cost. > > > Our company had no problem to send us despite of the price. > > > Later, we knew you where coming to Paris and we even thought on a > second > > > formation as first one was very light. Our company was ok to send us to > a > > > second formation with you. Despite of the cost again! > > > Small freelancers might see the cost as problem... but not companies. > > > > > > Migration was in standby and finally we didn't do it... (we where sad). > > We > > > where very disappointed and we had the felling that Tapestry was not > > known > > > in our company. So we coded a Tapestry Demo and we started to do an > > > internal > > > tapestry publicity. We did a presentation in order to make people know > > > Tapestry. We arrived to make somebody to choose Tapestry as the > > > presentation > > > framework on a internal project. > > > Workers making other people inside their companies to know Tapestry - > > > despite on their actual missions - it's mandatory. > > > > > > Globally speaking, we have noticed the name "Tapestry" is known by > > several > > > people in France, but in general we have checked that people don't know > > the > > > framework at all. > > > The point is that in France nobody has already done a JUG conference > > about > > > Tapestry (neither Paris JUG or a smaller JUGs). We can't say the same > > thing > > > about JSF 2 and Wicket, for example; jsf 2 and wicket people have done > > > several presentations all over France Jugs during the last couple of > > years. > > > Publicity, not only in big conferences where not everybody can go, is > > > mandatory. > > > Experts giving conferences and presentations in their countries and > > cities > > > make people's interest to grow. > > > > > > Obviously there are probably more factors. :-) > > > > > > > > > 2010/8/5 Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > I'm once again partnering with SkillsMatter to teach my full Tapestry > > > > workshop. This is an expanded version of the class, which is growing > > from > > > > three days up to four; the additional day will ensure that we have > time > > > for > > > > all the existing materials, and add a new section on testing using > > > TestNG, > > > > Selenium and Groovy. It will also give us more time to explore > student > > > > directed ideas, such as security and meta-programming. > > > > > > > > The class will be taught at SkillsMatter's offices in London, from > > > October > > > > 5th through the 8th. > > > > > > > > I'm curious how many people are aware of this training, and how many > > > people > > > > are located geographically to take advantage of it. I've done the 3 > day > > > > version of the class twice at SkillsMatter, and I'm looking forward > to > > > the > > > > full 4 day class. > > > > > > > > I'd like to start a discussion about what it would take to get more > > > people > > > > to attend the class, and/or what's keeping people from attending > (cost, > > > > location, etc.). > > > > > > > > Two other notes: > > > > > > > > - There will probably be another teach in Paris, in December > > > > - The workshop is normally taught on-site for a specific company (I > do > > > such > > > > a teach 2 - 3 times / year) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > > > > > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry > > > > > > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me > to > > > > learn > > > > how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > > > > > > > (971) 678-5210 > > > > http://howardlewisship.com > > > > > > > > > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator of Apache Tapestry The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! (971) 678-5210 http://howardlewisship.com
