I think one reason people fear Tapestry is it's backward compatibility history. Another reason is the ugliness of Howard. I can't imagine how people could keep up staring that ugly man for ours during courses or presentation :(
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Katia Aresti Gonzalez < katiaare...@gmail.com> wrote: > Laurent and me live in Paris. We work for a big international french > company. > > We were aware about these formations since last year because we are > tapestry > followers. > Last year, in may 2009, our client wanted to migrate from struts 1.x to > tapestry 5.x. > We started to learn Tapestry by ourselves. After that, we followed an > external formation in June 2009 (Paris), 3 days with a similar cost. > Our company had no problem to send us despite of the price. > Later, we knew you where coming to Paris and we even thought on a second > formation as first one was very light. Our company was ok to send us to a > second formation with you. Despite of the cost again! > Small freelancers might see the cost as problem... but not companies. > > Migration was in standby and finally we didn't do it... (we where sad). We > where very disappointed and we had the felling that Tapestry was not known > in our company. So we coded a Tapestry Demo and we started to do an > internal > tapestry publicity. We did a presentation in order to make people know > Tapestry. We arrived to make somebody to choose Tapestry as the > presentation > framework on a internal project. > Workers making other people inside their companies to know Tapestry - > despite on their actual missions - it's mandatory. > > Globally speaking, we have noticed the name "Tapestry" is known by several > people in France, but in general we have checked that people don't know the > framework at all. > The point is that in France nobody has already done a JUG conference about > Tapestry (neither Paris JUG or a smaller JUGs). We can't say the same thing > about JSF 2 and Wicket, for example; jsf 2 and wicket people have done > several presentations all over France Jugs during the last couple of years. > Publicity, not only in big conferences where not everybody can go, is > mandatory. > Experts giving conferences and presentations in their countries and cities > make people's interest to grow. > > Obviously there are probably more factors. :-) > > > 2010/8/5 Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> > > > I'm once again partnering with SkillsMatter to teach my full Tapestry > > workshop. This is an expanded version of the class, which is growing from > > three days up to four; the additional day will ensure that we have time > for > > all the existing materials, and add a new section on testing using > TestNG, > > Selenium and Groovy. It will also give us more time to explore student > > directed ideas, such as security and meta-programming. > > > > The class will be taught at SkillsMatter's offices in London, from > October > > 5th through the 8th. > > > > I'm curious how many people are aware of this training, and how many > people > > are located geographically to take advantage of it. I've done the 3 day > > version of the class twice at SkillsMatter, and I'm looking forward to > the > > full 4 day class. > > > > I'd like to start a discussion about what it would take to get more > people > > to attend the class, and/or what's keeping people from attending (cost, > > location, etc.). > > > > Two other notes: > > > > - There will probably be another teach in Paris, in December > > - The workshop is normally taught on-site for a specific company (I do > such > > a teach 2 - 3 times / year) > > > > -- > > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > > > Creator of Apache Tapestry > > > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to > > learn > > how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > > > (971) 678-5210 > > http://howardlewisship.com > > >
