Is there a reason the form needs to persist data when it hasn't been
submitted? perhaps ValidationTracker should be null until it's needed.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The mostly likely culprit is the use of a Form component, which stores
> its ValidationTracker object (by default) in  session, creating a
> session as needed.
>
> You can bind the tracker parameter of the Form component to a simple,
> non-persistent, property of type ValidationTracker.  Your only
> problem, then, is dealing with server-side input validation errors ...
> the tracker exists to capture user input and validation errors from
> the from submit request so that that information can be presented on
> the subsequent page render request.
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:16 PM, robinwilson2 <rwils...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We are running a high-volume environment on a 4 server tomcat cluster. Every
>> so often (about 1 time per month) during peak load times, our Tomcats will
>> start to thrash on garbage collection. We've traced the problem down to the
>> sessions being created are taking up all the heap space - even though the
>> vast majority of sessions are unnecessary because the user is completely
>> unauthenticated at the time the session is created.
>>
>> We have a 6GB heap space on each server - but the authenticated users take
>> up less then 1/10th of this space, the rest is going to unauthenticated
>> users.
>>
>> We have tuned our session durations down for unauthenticated users to 1
>> seconds, but we can still encounter loads that generate sessions for
>> unauthenticated users so fast that we run out of heap. (Not because we
>> generate sessions faster than they are being expired - but because Tomcat's
>> expiration code is very slow, so "old" (past expiration time) sessions
>> linger for more than an hour during peak load.
>>
>> To us, the ideal solution would be to not create sessions if the user is
>> unauthenticated. We're using Tapestry 5.1.05, and we can't figure out how to
>> make a page that does not create a session in Tapestry. Can someone point us
>> in the direction of the documentation on this (if there is any)?
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