Sorry the mess at the begining. What I meant is that I  didn't see
anything complex in the url u provided that couldn't be handle using
the zone component

On Wednesday, October 28, 2009, Juan E. Maya <maya.j...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Argo maybe u could describe consider a complex example. I didn't see
> anything complex that could be handle using the zone component.
> Jumpstsry provide Ajax demos with forms and the  behavior of the zone
> component should be enough for most of the cases. So please let us
> know an example that would require something else. (autocomplete uses
> json)
>
> A component based framework works differntly to what u may have used.
> And It's very difficult to like something if u r not open minded. Yes,
> there's a learning curve but I don't think there r more than 5
> annotation u have to learn and ur classes don't need to know about any
> other class.
>
> Also tapestry does a lot of JS for u. That is one of the advantages. U
> can write a web app that uses Ajax without writing a single line of
> js.  If u want to change the js completly u should have a very good
> reason. It's not a common thing to do.  This's ur first project and u
> have to deal with internal of tapestry to change the js(at least
> understand it), that could be frustrating.
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2009, Inge Solvoll <inge.tapes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would love to see a positive and helpful response to this request. His
>> approach might annoy a few people here, but I encourage you to take this
>> kind of thing seriously. I believe there are a lot of people feeling the way
>> Argo feels about the framework, and he does hit a few good points on the
>> way, about good examples and documentation.
>>
>> And to you Argo, please be more specific. Post code samples of (isolated)
>> things you would like to achieve. Don't be vague, don't ask a lot of
>> different questions in a single post, and be respectful. Then, I'm 100% sure
>> you'll get the help you need from the smart and friendly people on this
>> list.
>>
>> As the others say, you can learn a lot from checking out the wiki, source
>> code and so on. Read the autocompleter mixin source code and the
>> documentation. That's all I needed to get started writing AJAX easy and
>> clean. See my code samples at:
>>
>> http://tinybits.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Argo Vilberg <wilps...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/10/27 Magnus Rundberget <run...@me.com>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > On 27. okt.. 2009, at 19.58, Argo Vilberg wrote:
>>> >
>>> >  hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Is there any project sources on internet where i can learn advance ajax
>>> >> and
>>> >> Tapestry coding?
>>> >>
>>> > So you are way beyond
>>> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1/guide/ajax.html  ?
>>> > You have looked at the bundled components and mixins (and their source) ?
>>> > Maybe you have even had a peak at www.chenillekit.org /
>>> > http://chenillekit.codehaus.org ?
>>> > And you have tried http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowTos for
>>> > inspiration ?
>>> >
>>> > Let me rephrase. What do you mean by advanced and which sources have you
>>> > tried already ?
>>> >
>>>
>>> I want create full dynamic HTML, with full ajax and javascript control over
>>> dynamic HTML.
>>> I write early 2 month ago asp 1.0 + jQuery + ajax. And that was pretty
>>> easy.
>>> And also i write php with codeignator + jQuery, also no problem. Watch
>>> estonian fresh food google MAP project (www.elavtoit.com)
>>> And now with tapestry, i use day after day try - exit method(this is
>>> exactly
>>> translation from estonian:) and i do not fully understand why this
>>> framework
>>> is so complicated. There are annotations and other trick, that combine full
>>> new tehnology over html,css,javascript,ajax. What is that for? All
>>> component
>>> deals with hard staff for you. But if i do not understand how component
>>> works, and secondly if i try do something diffferent that component allows
>>> then there is black hole( no way to do it ).
>>> Or spend days after days try-and try wich ways in tapestry works. This try
>>> to make coding easier is at last make coding much harder than in regular
>>> asp
>>> 1.0 or PHP.
>>> Earler i write estonain e-School project, now approximatley 85% estonian
>>> school are using it and 50% of population of estonia using it. There are my
>>> own written framework, similar to hibarenate(caching, clustering,
>>> db-pooling) and also old j2ee standard xml-xslt transformation framework.
>>> Fully optimized and works fine. In current project tapestry is not my
>>> choise
>>> but i must end this project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Once you get the hang of how tapestry supports ajax, i'm sure you can go
>>> as
>>> > advanced as you like.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Also is i interested jQuery an

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