Argo maybe u could describe consider a complex example. I didn't see anything complex that could be handle using the zone component. Jumpstsry provide Ajax demos with forms and the behavior of the zone component should be enough for most of the cases. So please let us know an example that would require something else. (autocomplete uses json)
A component based framework works differntly to what u may have used. And It's very difficult to like something if u r not open minded. Yes, there's a learning curve but I don't think there r more than 5 annotation u have to learn and ur classes don't need to know about any other class. Also tapestry does a lot of JS for u. That is one of the advantages. U can write a web app that uses Ajax without writing a single line of js. If u want to change the js completly u should have a very good reason. It's not a common thing to do. This's ur first project and u have to deal with internal of tapestry to change the js(at least understand it), that could be frustrating. On Wednesday, October 28, 2009, Inge Solvoll <inge.tapes...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would love to see a positive and helpful response to this request. His > approach might annoy a few people here, but I encourage you to take this > kind of thing seriously. I believe there are a lot of people feeling the way > Argo feels about the framework, and he does hit a few good points on the > way, about good examples and documentation. > > And to you Argo, please be more specific. Post code samples of (isolated) > things you would like to achieve. Don't be vague, don't ask a lot of > different questions in a single post, and be respectful. Then, I'm 100% sure > you'll get the help you need from the smart and friendly people on this > list. > > As the others say, you can learn a lot from checking out the wiki, source > code and so on. Read the autocompleter mixin source code and the > documentation. That's all I needed to get started writing AJAX easy and > clean. See my code samples at: > > http://tinybits.blogspot.com > > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Argo Vilberg <wilps...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 2009/10/27 Magnus Rundberget <run...@me.com> >> >> > >> > On 27. okt.. 2009, at 19.58, Argo Vilberg wrote: >> > >> > hi, >> >> >> >> Is there any project sources on internet where i can learn advance ajax >> >> and >> >> Tapestry coding? >> >> >> > So you are way beyond >> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1/guide/ajax.html ? >> > You have looked at the bundled components and mixins (and their source) ? >> > Maybe you have even had a peak at www.chenillekit.org / >> > http://chenillekit.codehaus.org ? >> > And you have tried http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowTos for >> > inspiration ? >> > >> > Let me rephrase. What do you mean by advanced and which sources have you >> > tried already ? >> > >> >> I want create full dynamic HTML, with full ajax and javascript control over >> dynamic HTML. >> I write early 2 month ago asp 1.0 + jQuery + ajax. And that was pretty >> easy. >> And also i write php with codeignator + jQuery, also no problem. Watch >> estonian fresh food google MAP project (www.elavtoit.com) >> And now with tapestry, i use day after day try - exit method(this is >> exactly >> translation from estonian:) and i do not fully understand why this >> framework >> is so complicated. There are annotations and other trick, that combine full >> new tehnology over html,css,javascript,ajax. What is that for? All >> component >> deals with hard staff for you. But if i do not understand how component >> works, and secondly if i try do something diffferent that component allows >> then there is black hole( no way to do it ). >> Or spend days after days try-and try wich ways in tapestry works. This try >> to make coding easier is at last make coding much harder than in regular >> asp >> 1.0 or PHP. >> Earler i write estonain e-School project, now approximatley 85% estonian >> school are using it and 50% of population of estonia using it. There are my >> own written framework, similar to hibarenate(caching, clustering, >> db-pooling) and also old j2ee standard xml-xslt transformation framework. >> Fully optimized and works fine. In current project tapestry is not my >> choise >> but i must end this project. >> >> >> >> > Once you get the hang of how tapestry supports ajax, i'm sure you can go >> as >> > advanced as you like. >> > >> > >> > Also is i interested jQuery and Tapestry advance examples. >> >> >> > Once you get over the conflict of $, it should in theory be straight >> > forward... check out the wiki on howto enable jquery. Let me know if you >> > find any good examples of cool jquery plugin integrations for tapestry ! >> >> >> Jes i get over $ confict. >> But i spend over 1 week to get tapestry ajax working with select onchange. >> Changing 5.0.14 to 5.1.0.5 >> And if i want generate dynamic HTML. This is only possible with tapestry >> LOOP, if loop is over LIST of String:) >> If there are any kind on other datatype, then error occored. >> But how to put in dynamic HTML select javacript and AJAX. I dont know .... >> So i must figure out how get over Tapestry and use only ANY tapestry >> component. >> >> >> >> > >> > And is there possible switch off tapestry javascript and write fully my >> >> own >> >> javascript? >> >> >> >> Search this forum for disable javascript (somebody asked the same not >> to >> > long ago).... Is there any particular reason you wish to fight the >> framework >> > ? >> >> >> Why must framework so complicated. So many classes and annotation that hard >> to see hole picture. >> If there are some greate project done in tapestry5 with complicated AJAX, >> then plese --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
