I've been coming to the same conclusion.

I'm clearing time with my boss to pursue this, along with several
online articles.

I have an idea for an application that can demonstrate every bit of
Tapestry and be useful to boot.

So the "guide" is the reference, what I have planned is the "tour".
It would replace the tutorial.

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:28 AM, Ulrich Stärk <u...@spielviel.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Tapestry's current documentation is very complete, covering almost
> everything a developer needs to know to be productive with Tapestry.
> Unfortunately this documentation is clustered across several locations thus
> making it hard to find information and very hard for beginners to get going.
> Sometimes even I am annoyed because I don't find the information I'm looking
> for at the expected place. There is the official user guide, which is no
> guide in the actual sense of the word but merely a collection of topics
> using Tapestry-specific vocabulary as the topics, making it hard for a
> beginner to get started. Then there is the tutorial that gets you started
> with Tapestry but doesn't go deep enough to know the name of the topic to
> look for in the user guide when a problem arises or more information on a
> subject is needed. Thirdly, there is the wiki that contains numerous
> examples on how to solve common use cases with Tapestry. And lastly there is
> the component reference that not only contains documentation for a specific
> component but also contains examples on how to use them to solve common use
> cases. Today for example, someone on the users mailing list asked for how to
> have some kind of a "dynamic component". He wanted to display a certain
> component based on the outcome of a function he wrote in his page class.
> This question has come up before on the list and because of the "Static
> Structure, Dynamic Behavior" paradigm - which is a key principle and is not
> mentioned in the documentation but at the bottom of the start page - the
> solution is to use the Delegate component with blocks. In the Delegate
> component reference documentation there is an example covering exactly that
> use case. But it seems that the user wasn't able to find it - either he
> didn't look at all or more probably, he looked in the wrong place. How could
> he possibly know, that the solution to his use case is documented in a
> component named Delegate?
> Because I think that the current arrangement of the documentation makes it
> hard to grasp the concepts of Tapestry, especially for beginners, and to
> quickly find the information one seeks, I propose the following steps to be
> taken to improve the documentation:
>
> 1. Re-arrange the current documentation to not just be an alphabetically
> ordered list of topics but instead to be some kind of guide to Tapestry.
> Group topics that belong together, start with basic topics and end with
> advanced ones.
> 2. Print a short description of the purpose of a component next to its link
> in the component reference.
> 3. Integrate the various documents into a coherent documentation that
> follows a red line, beginning at the basics and ending with advanced topics
> like manipulation of internal services. The tutorial could be used as a
> starting point.
> 4. Extend the Tapestry Cookbook. Move solutions to common use cases from the
> wiki (if they meet certain quality criteria) and the component reference
> there.
>
> Steps 1 and 2 are easy to realize, steps 3 and 4 need more work.
>
> What do you think? What are your experiences with Tapestrys documentation?
> Do you think the proposed steps would lead to an improvement? What other
> aspects of the documentation do you think need improvement and how could
> they be improved?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Uli
>
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