I agree with all the points.

And, for point #4, there is also a JIRA issue you can vote on:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-223

As it is a simple addition and commonly used, I do not see why it should not be included in 5.0. Then the wiki page can just describe how to enable it (actually, it would make sense to add a note about that topic to "official" T5 documentation also).

Rgds,
Neeme

Francois Armand wrote:
Ok, so we reach the point where T5.0 final is imminent, and we are all (I think) really happy of that. As we also want that T5 really makes its way in the Java Web ecosystem, I think it always miss some really little things that are really important for a .0 release.

I purpose to start this discussion in the ml, and when some major gap emerge, to post them in the issue tracker, and vote for them.

So, for me, what I expect for 5.0 :
1/ - full and complete and rather simple internationalization : I really believe that a web framework can ignore other language and culture (date, number) today ;
    that include validator translation and stuff like that.
2/ - valid XHTML, even for IE, by default. The workaround is here for some time, but why it's not default ? See http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowToXhtml 3/ - something around AJAX documentation and Zone update inside a form (that includes update of part of a form on change from a select : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-138) 4/- a property symbol provider, also simple and in use almost always @see http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5HowToReadSymbolsFromPropertiesFile

Without 1, T5 just can't get is path easely outside English contries ; Without 2, T5 can hardly be considered top-level (even if on the technical point of vue, it's completly rigth and it's IE fault), without 3, AJAX seems not so well integrated, and it's hot stuff todays, and 4 is so much common in a application, why do we have to bother with that each time ?

Other simple stuff that should be corrected before 5.0 (in my opinion) :
- why hidden field is still missing ? It's so easy to add, a new user should not even have to search for that ! - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-257, that seems to bring other pb with decorator and the like ;

What do you thing about that ? Does it make sense to open a "community want that" bug, that have to be quick to handle, but that brings the attention of T5 developers on what we need ? Perhaps we can already vote for existing bugs ? Which ones ?



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