Hi
and thx for the info! why would you discourage from doing so? (I will read
the page you sent now).
cheers
janos

2008/4/30 Filip S. Adamsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> That's pretty hard to do without some kind of persistence because of the
> redirect that happens between the component action and the page render.
>
> There's of course tapestry.suppress-redirect-from-action-requests, but I
> would strongly recommend AGAINST using that.
>
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-core/guide/conf.html
>
> -Filip
>
> János Jarecsni skrev:
>
>  Hi,
> >
> > I looked everywhere for usage of request scope variables, but found
> > nothing
> > (maybe I'm impatient a bit :)...
> > Is it really that unrealistic to have two components in a page, one (A)
> > having an action link eventhandler where it would set some attribute for
> > the
> > request only (not the session!) and then component B could render itself
> > according to the attribute set by component A?
> >
> > I think it should be a piece of cake :)
> >
> > thx
> > Janos
> >
> > 2008/4/30 Filip S. Adamsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >  Nope, you're exactly right.
> > >
> > > -Filip
> > >
> > > Blower, Andy skrev:
> > >
> > >  This is not what I understood 'perthread' scope to be. I thought that
> > > it
> > >
> > > > meant that each thread using a service gets its own instance of the
> > > > service
> > > > to use, even though that instance may not be the same as any
> > > > previous
> > > > instance it used. In other words, nothing to do with user sessions,
> > > > it's
> > > > just for services that are not thread safe and cannot be singletons.
> > > >
> > > > Have I got the wrong end of the stick here?
> > > >
> > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > >
> > > > > From: Andy Huhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: 29 April 2008 17:34
> > > > > To: Tapestry users
> > > > > Subject: Re: page activation + components
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > You can define the scope of each service...you can set that
> > > > > particular
> > > > > service to be tied to only one session.
> > > > >
> > > > > See http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/service.html
> > > > > ,
> > > > > and
> > > > > search for "perthread".
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:02:52 +0200, "János Jarecsni"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Hi there,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > the service approach (as I expected) is session-agnostic (and is
> > > > > > page-independent so concurrent users would interfere badly),
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  therefore is
> > > > >
> > > > >  not ok.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will now try the Environment approach... if that is
> > > > > > session-aware
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  :)
> > > > >
> > > > >  thx again
> > > > > > janos
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2008/4/29 János Jarecsni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Hi Chris,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > even so you could help :) I want this kind of generic way of
> > > > > > > passing
> > > > > > > around information (component to component communication :))
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > I'll
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  look
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  for the solutions Kristian and you outlined.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > > janos
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2008/4/29 Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Janos,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Without code or a description of your actual goal, I'm
> > > > > > > > finding
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  your
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > situation too hypothetical to really digest. The one thing I can
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > point
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > out is what you said about wanting a component to set a property
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  page. If you want to do that, then you have to know the class
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > page and so injecting a page would make sense. Of course that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > means
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > tightly coupling a component to a page, which to me doesn't make
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > sense.
> > > > > > > If you simply need a generic way of passing data between pages
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > components, consider using a service that provides an
> > > > > > > > untyped
> > > > > > > > list
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  or
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > putting something in the environment as Kristian suggested. I'm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > sorry
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  can't be more helpful but as I said I'm not clear on what
> > > > > > > you're
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > trying to do.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > good luck
> > > > > > > > chris
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > János Jarecsni wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  Hi Chris,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I thought of pages as "contexts" for the components
> > > > > > > > > embedded
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  within
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, in one event handler of a component I would like to set
> > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  property or
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  another (in the page object), and the other components in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  page,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > are also able to access this property may change their
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  appearance
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (say, the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > .TML would test the property). Maybe I'm on a wrong track,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  please
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > let
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  me
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > know :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > thx
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > janos
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2008/4/29 Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  Janos,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm having a hard time understanding a case that a
> > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  should
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > know
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > in which page it is embedded, so my suggestion probably wasn't
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > good
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  one. Activation contexts aren't meant for components but for
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > pages
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  you
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > should be using component parameters to configure them, and
> > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  more sophisticated component, probably a service.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > chris
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > János Jarecsni wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  and how a component can get to know the page in which
> > > > > > > > > > it is
> > > > > > > > > > included? I
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > mean, I can't @InjectPage, as the component will be
> > > > > > > > > included
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > many
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  kinds
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  of pages.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > @Kristian: thx for the many ways :) I'll try these,
> > > > > > > > > > > hope
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >  the
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > @Environmental stuff is scalable (I'm trying to bypass
> > > > > > session
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > creation
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  much as possible)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Is there a doc on the various annotations available?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > @Michael:
> > > > > > > > > > > Could you include a tiny bit of example? THX!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thx to you all
> > > > > > > > > > > cheers
> > > > > > > > > > > janos
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/29 Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >  5) @InjectPage the page and call the getter
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  hi janos,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > there are several possibilities:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) declare a component parameter and pass in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > variable
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) put it in a ASO and inject the ASO in all your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > components
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  (using
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > @ApplicationState)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > the drawback is that any other page or component will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  able to
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > access
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  the ASO
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 3) put it into the Environment and read it whereever
> > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  need it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  nested components.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > be careful when you put your object in your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > environment. if
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  you
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > put it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  in
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  during the action
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > request it will not be able in the render request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (because
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  of
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  page
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > redirect).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > page:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > @Inject Environment env;
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > @Persist("flash") whateverclass w;
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > onActivate(w) {  this.w= w }
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > setupRender() { env.push(whateverclass.class,w);}
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > components:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > @Environmental Whateverclass var;
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) define a service that can take this variable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > saves
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  it
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  appropriatly
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  so it is not
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > lost on a redirect:)) and inject your service in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  components
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > where
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > needed
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > to retrieve the value.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe there are some more possibilities :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > g,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > kris
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "János Jarecsni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 29.04.2008 08:15
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Bitte antworten an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > An
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Kopie
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thema
> > > > > > > > > > > > > page activation + components
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi there,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have an activatable page, in its
> > > > > > > > > > > > > onActivate(String
> > > > > > > > > > > > > param)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  method
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  save
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >  the param to a normal instance variable of the page
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > class
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  (no
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > persistence!).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How can any component embedded within this page access
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  variable?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the page class:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > //...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > private String param;
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > public void onActivate(String param) {
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  this.param = param;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > public String getParam() {...}
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thx in advance!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Janos
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