Maybe the request approach does not work, as T5 has two requests
action+render following each other? And the request attributes are reset
between them?

Janos

2008/4/30 János Jarecsni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> No, I think then I misunderstood you :)
> The essential thing, is I'd like to have something similar to request
> scoped variables... something that would be available to all components and
> the page itself in the same request. Intention is to avoid creating a
> session as far as possible.
>
> thx!
> cheers
> janos
>
> 2008/4/30 Blower, Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> This is not what I understood 'perthread' scope to be. I thought that it
> > meant that each thread using a service gets its own instance of the service
> > to use, even though that instance may not be the same as any previous
> > instance it used. In other words, nothing to do with user sessions, it's
> > just for services that are not thread safe and cannot be singletons.
> >
> > Have I got the wrong end of the stick here?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Huhn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 29 April 2008 17:34
> > > To: Tapestry users
> > > Subject: Re: page activation + components
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > You can define the scope of each service...you can set that particular
> > > service to be tied to only one session.
> > >
> > > See http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5/tapestry-ioc/service.html,
> > and
> > > search for "perthread".
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:02:52 +0200, "János Jarecsni"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi there,
> > > >
> > > > the service approach (as I expected) is session-agnostic (and is
> > > > page-independent so concurrent users would interfere badly),
> > > therefore is
> > > > not ok.
> > > >
> > > > I will now try the Environment approach... if that is session-aware
> > > :)
> > > >
> > > > thx again
> > > > janos
> > > >
> > > > 2008/4/29 János Jarecsni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Chris,
> > > >>
> > > >> even so you could help :) I want this kind of generic way of
> > passing
> > > >> around information (component to component communication :)) so
> > I'll
> > > > look
> > > >> for the solutions Kristian and you outlined.
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> cheers,
> > > >> janos
> > > >>
> > > >> 2008/4/29 Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Janos,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Without code or a description of your actual goal, I'm finding
> > > your
> > > >> > situation too hypothetical to really digest. The one thing I can
> > > point
> > > >> > out is what you said about wanting a component to set a property
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > >> > page. If you want to do that, then you have to know the class of
> > > the
> > > >> > page and so injecting a page would make sense. Of course that
> > > means
> > > >> > tightly coupling a component to a page, which to me doesn't make
> > > > sense.
> > > >> > If you simply need a generic way of passing data between pages
> > and
> > > >> > components, consider using a service that provides an untyped
> > list
> > > or
> > > >> > putting something in the environment as Kristian suggested. I'm
> > > sorry
> > > > I
> > > >> > can't be more helpful but as I said I'm not clear on what you're
> > > > really
> > > >> > trying to do.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > good luck
> > > >> > chris
> > > >> >
> > > >> > János Jarecsni wrote:
> > > >> > > Hi Chris,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I thought of pages as "contexts" for the components embedded
> > > within
> > > >> > them.
> > > >> > > So, in one event handler of a component I would like to set
> > some
> > > >> > property or
> > > >> > > another (in the page object), and the other components in the
> > > page,
> > > >> > which
> > > >> > > are also able to access this property may change their
> > > appearance
> > > >> > (say, the
> > > >> > > .TML would test the property). Maybe I'm on a wrong track,
> > > please
> > > > let
> > > >> > me
> > > >> > > know :)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > thx
> > > >> > > Cheers,
> > > >> > > janos
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > 2008/4/29 Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Janos,
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I'm having a hard time understanding a case that a component
> > > should
> > > >> > know
> > > >> > >> in which page it is embedded, so my suggestion probably wasn't
> > > a
> > > > good
> > > >> > >> one. Activation contexts aren't meant for components but for
> > > pages
> > > > -
> > > >> > you
> > > >> > >> should be using component parameters to configure them, and if
> > > it's
> > > > a
> > > >> > >> more sophisticated component, probably a service.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> chris
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> János Jarecsni wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> and how a component can get to know the page in which it is
> > > >> > included? I
> > > >> > >>> mean, I can't @InjectPage, as the component will be included
> > > in
> > > > many
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >> kinds
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> of pages.
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> @Kristian: thx for the many ways :) I'll try these, hope that
> > > the
> > > >> > >>> @Environmental stuff is scalable (I'm trying to bypass
> > session
> > > >> > creation
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >> as
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>> much as possible)
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Is there a doc on the various annotations available?
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> @Michael:
> > > >> > >>> Could you include a tiny bit of example? THX!
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> Thx to you all
> > > >> > >>> cheers
> > > >> > >>> janos
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>> 2008/4/29 Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>
> > > >> > >>>> 5) @InjectPage the page and call the getter
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>> Kristian Marinkovic wrote:
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> hi janos,
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> there are several possibilities:
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> 1) declare a component parameter and pass in the variable
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> 2) put it in a ASO and inject the ASO in all your
> > components
> > > >> > (using
> > > >> > >>>>> @ApplicationState)
> > > >> > >>>>> the drawback is that any other page or component will be
> > > able to
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >> access
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>>>> the ASO
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> 3) put it into the Environment and read it whereever you
> > > need it
> > > >> > in
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >> your
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>>>> nested components.
> > > >> > >>>>> be careful when you put your object in your environment. if
> > > you
> > > >> > put it
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> in
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> during the action
> > > >> > >>>>> request it will not be able in the render request (because
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > page
> > > >> > >>>>> redirect).
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> page:
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> @Inject Environment env;
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> @Persist("flash") whateverclass w;
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> onActivate(w) {  this.w= w }
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> setupRender() { env.push(whateverclass.class,w);}
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> components:
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> @Environmental Whateverclass var;
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> 4) define a service that can take this variable (and saves
> > > it
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> appropriatly
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> so it is not
> > > >> > >>>>> lost on a redirect:)) and inject your service in the
> > > components
> > > >> > where
> > > >> > >>>>> needed
> > > >> > >>>>> to retrieve the value.
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> maybe there are some more possibilities :)
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> g,
> > > >> > >>>>> kris
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> "János Jarecsni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> > >>>>> 29.04.2008 08:15
> > > >> > >>>>> Bitte antworten an
> > > >> > >>>>> "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> An
> > > >> > >>>>> "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org>
> > > >> > >>>>> Kopie
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> Thema
> > > >> > >>>>> page activation + components
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> Hi there,
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> I have an activatable page, in its onActivate(String param)
> > > > method
> > > >> > I
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> save
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> the param to a normal instance variable of the page class
> > > (no
> > > >> > >>>>> persistence!).
> > > >> > >>>>> How can any component embedded within this page access this
> > > >> > variable?
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> the page class:
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> //...
> > > >> > >>>>> private String param;
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> public void onActivate(String param) {
> > > >> > >>>>>    this.param = param;
> > > >> > >>>>> }
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> public String getParam() {...}
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>> Thx in advance!
> > > >> > >>>>> Janos
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>>>
> > > >> > >>>> --
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> > > >> > >>>>
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