I couldn't disagree with you more. For people like you who are familiar
with spring, you may think the ioc part of T5 is a waste of time. That
makes sense if you use and are happy with spring. For people like me
it's a completely different story. I have been working with java for
years - on the desktop. I've been doing web work for almost as long and
have specifically avoided java because its approach has always seemed
far too heavy, restrictive, and ungraceful for web development. I
briefly looked at a framework here and there over the years because I
enjoyed java as a language, but each time I resorted to another
technology because each one I looked at made me laugh. Granted I was a
bit naive at the time, but still I had to wonder if those framework
developers actually developed web sites/applications with their
frameworks, or instead thought it would be funny to see how many poor
suckers would fall into the tangle of complications they created.
Recently a project I stepped into reached a point of critical mass, and
using java made sense even if complicated. I resolved to find a
framework that, while maybe more complicated than I prefer, would
prevent me from succumbing to my urges to hang myself in the shower.
This is getting long so I'll cut it short. Getting started with T5 was
easy, as I am familiar with maven and eclipse. The docs are still a
little lacking, but I'm not afraid of source code or contributing code
and/or articles. As I'm not familiar with spring I don't share your
perspective. I loath the (ab/mis)use of xml that has been happening for
years, especially in 'enterprise' environments, so I never got into
spring. I am not bashing it as I can't rightfully judge something I
haven't used, but I can say that starting w/ T5 was cake, and I see no
hole that needs filling by something like spring.
Again this is my perspective - use what works best for you.
chris
Mohammad Shamsi wrote:
Dear Friends,
With this abilities that all we know about Frameworks like Spring,
is there any need to Tapestry Focus on providing Hibernate Integration Tools
or Tapestry IOC ?
i read Howards Documents about need for new Ioc for Tapestry, but i still
think that using Spring Ioc and Spring XML files is much easier than coding
it with Java Code
On Dec 26, 2007 1:35 PM, Arve Klev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
T5 + Spring is in my opinion a very good choose. I let Spring integrate
ORM
(Hibernate, JDBC, TopLink, etc).
sincerely, Arve Klev
2007/12/24, Mohammad Shamsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi All,
i want to start new Java EE projecct, Formerly we used Spring + Struts
in
our projects.
after about 4 month testing and reading about Tapestry 5, i decide to
use
Tapestry 5 instead of Struts.
i read some limitations of tapestry-spring module in its home page and
i
have no problem with them.
is it any other limitation in using T5 + Spring ?
does anyone have experience in T5 + Spring ?
--
sincerely yours
M. H. Shamsi
