On 9/17/07, Christian Gruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, so far I'm just learning T5, but have been having quite a bit of > success with the live class reloading. As stated, it only reloads > live for components/pages/mixins, and not model classes and others, > but given the incredibly short restart time on a T5 app with Jetty, > even that's ok. But when it comes to the actual designing of pages > and components, I make a change, hit reload (on the browser) and it > magically changes. >
I can second that. Class Reloading has saved me a massive amount of time and increased my productivity no end. Plus although its only the core tapestry related classes that get the live reloading, without the masses of XML config the tapestry start up time under Jetty is only a couple of seconds. I have to wait at least 15 seconds before my T4 apps appear. T5 is still fairly rough around the edges, for instance some doc types don't appear to be honoured correctly and not all of the generated HTML validates correctly (although appears to work OK in the major browsers). I can certainly see it being indispensable for my web projects in to the future. For the time being I am using it for some of our internal projects (where I know I can support it my self in production), although also partly as a learning / evaluation process. Although its currently Alpha most of the core stuff is at least beta standard. What makes it alpha is the lack of certain features AJAX for instance, and the knowledge that Howard & Co are still wanting the chance to make some fairly sizeable changes that my break apps with the final version. For some of our internal projects we only need the T5 Core and we don't have problem updating them later as there's no client to hand it over to on a certain date. Of course the difficult decision we will face soon, is for big projects. Do we start now with the alpha build of T5 know / hoping it will grow around us as T5 nears completion, or do you play it safe with T4 knowing that the whole projects core is out of date almost straight away, and accepting the big app reloading productivity hit. That's my thoughts any way. Charlie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
