Francois Armand wrote:
Todd Orr wrote:
[....]
More to the point, I believe that Howard and the Tapestry developers
will be utilized as development resources most effectively if the
focus remains on creating the #1 MVC framework. Thanks a million guys!
Just to continue arguing in this way : I use Tapestry 5 to build an LDAP manager web application, and I really don't care to have a "full stack" framework for that, because this kind of framework not event know what LDAP is... As soon as you step aside from the most common use cases, these framework are useless. In fact, I choose Tapestry 5 because it does it job _very_ well, but it just do it (there was other pretenders, but certainly not SEAM, RIFE or *rails).

I certainly don't think that tapestry-core should ever be a "full stack", but I hope that there is eventually something like the quick-start which allows new users to generate a "quick and dirty" CRUD application very easily (it would be nice it this were less typing than the standard maven command line as this is off-putting to most new comers, but copy-in-paste does work wonders), no one should expect such quick-starts to be full-strength applications, but it would provide a great way to get someone new (like myself) up-to-speed and productive. The power of annotations would seem to be to enable this via IoC without dumping any additional logic into the tapestry-core code base.

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