One of the reasons Tapestry uses the T5 IoC container is to allow this
debate to actually pursue both desired courses: keep it simple and
focused vs. be a full stack.

Because of the IoC container, the dynamic module discovery, and the
distributed service configuration (wherein modules may contribute
configuration data to services defined in other modules), you can use
just the core of Tapestry, or you can add in additional libraries
(such as tapestry-spring, tapestry-hibernate, etc.) and get something
that, via integration, becomes a full stack.

I intend to pursue both approaches; I want there to be a story where
you can get a simple CRUD app up and running VERY quickly.  I want to
support business processes using Spring Web Flow, but I also want a
minimal core that stands on its own and it still highly useable.

On 6/28/07, Francois Armand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kalle Korhonen wrote:
> Tapestry 4 isn't far behind in powerfulness and in some areas way
> ahead, but
> certainly with a higher learning curve.
Well, I'm just a beginner with Tapestry 5, and don't even had a look to
Tapestry 4, so my notice was just about the thrill I have to use T5 :)
(I'm coming from a world of Struts and even worse home-made framework...
just imagine that)
> Supporting Tap5 is a constant topic
> within Trails, but the reality is that it's a preview and will take some
> time to reach the maturity level of Tap4.x.
That's clear, and your position seems to be quite sensible.
> In the meantime though, we are
> hard at work for upgrading to Tap4.1.2 in Trails. We'll evaluate Tap5
> again
> when a "final" release comes closer.

That sound great, thanks for your work and for you reply !


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