I would agree that it's a bit much more difficult to "grok", but we're
working on that what HiveMind 2.0!  Yes, you don't need to know anything
about HiveMind, necessarily, to use Tapestry.  But, if you want to
extend/enhance it (as you said), you do.


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:39 PM
To: users@tapestry.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tapestry 3 to 4.1 to 5

Tue enough, although I must say I had no problems plugging Spring in using
the 
Spring integration jar. Very quick and painless.

I think that use of Hivemind is required when one needs to extend or enhance

or add new functionality to Tapestry itself. Certainly one could also use 
Hivemind as a configuration engine for other non-Tapestry services, but it 
isn't actually required for that purpose.

I don't mind Hivemind as an IoC container, but I have found it more
difficult 
to grok than Spring.

-Scott

On Sunday 25 June 2006 11:34, James Carman wrote:
> That being said, Scott, it *is* much easier to "plug in" to Tapestry using
> HiveMind, since Tapestry itself is wired together using HiveMind.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 8:41 PM
> To: users@tapestry.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Tapestry 3 to 4.1 to 5
>
> I'm guessing you mean Hivemind, not Hibernate.
>
> Hibernate is an ORM that is completely independant of Tapestry. Some users
> (like myself) use it and thus seek out (or develop) solutions that
> integrate the two (eg. tapernate, honeycomb, cognition). You might see
talk
> about that on the mail;ing list but unless you intend to use Hibernate for
> your database persistence then you don't need to worry about it.
>
> Hivemind is a configuration engine that Tapestry is built on. Whether it
is
> used by any other project doesn't matter. You are not constrained to use
it
> if you don't want - use Spring, use Picocontainer, use your home-grown
> solution if you want.
>
> regards,
> Scott
>

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